Read them both.
Richard Lees vol 1 and vol 2 books are loading manuals as well.
I don't know about Lyman #4
Lyman #4 is strictly for cats bullets...which is the only thing I shoot.
Lyman's 49th edition is also a good one.
Remember one thing though. Manuals will eventually go out of date. Keep up on current info.
Thanks! Lyman 49th ordered and I'll also be subscribing to this site.My overall favorite is the Lyman manual because they don't stick to just one bullet, as Speer and the other bullet makers will, and they don't stick to just one manufacturer of powder the way that Hodgdon (they own Winchester and IMR as well) does.
However, I have found the best solution of all: www.loaddata.com
Yes, it's a yearly subscription service, but that subscription is $25/year, about the cost of one of the cheaper manuals, but you get the benefit of having all of the manuals out there in their current and even many older editions, plus lots of data from other sources, in one place.
I also like not having to find space for yet another manual, since I already have nearly a dozen, and they're rather bulky.
Check it out.
Oh hell, I just ordered the Lee 2nd edition as well...
When you get them both do a follow up and let us know which you think is better. Just a hint (check out the 9mm section of both first).
I have never figured out how you keep the fur on them when the velocities go past 750 fps ?
I was there yesterday and nothing mentioned in this thread was in stock. I was able to pick up the "2015 hodgdon basic reloading manual" which seems to have a decent amount of load data for their powders.+1
Also: Profire used to have different loading manuals for purchase, so you could thumb through them and see what you liked or didn't like. But this is when they had their retail store on Rockville Road. You might give them a call and see what they now have in stock at their new location:
Warehouse Location: (behind the Red Cross)
1518 East Washington St, Ste 300
Indianapolis, IN 46201
317-757-8132
Summer Hours:
Hours: Wednesday, 10am-6pm
Saturday, 10am-4pm
I normally point guys to the Lyman, but I've had several people tell me they didn't like the 9mm section.
So....I'd recommend Speer or Hornady.
I don't recommend the Lee manual.
I prefer the Hornady book over the Lyman. I have both but the Lyman lacks a lot of load data that the Hornady has. As preface I only load for rifles and have never loaded pistol rounds.
I normally point guys to the Lyman, but I've had several people tell me they didn't like the 9mm section.