Six people charged, allegedly plotting to abduct, kill Michigan Gov. Whitmer

[Hatin Since 87]

There are extremes on both ends of the political spectrum. What is tragic is the rest of us aren't working together.

Just had that discussion at work. The only ones we see are the extremes, most of the country are closer to the center than people realize. I don’t judge parties by their extremists, I measure them on the size of their extremists. The Bernie bro’s have made up a huge portion of extremists the past few years, but they don’t like the democrat platform much, only certain politicians (AOC, Omar) so they’re pretty much irrelevant, imo.

I wish the middle would come together and run the left/right extremists into the hills so we could get back to normal political processes, but as long as the media keeps the flame burning it’ll never happen.

 

[GIJEW]

Guys. It's a single incident by a bunch of idiots. No one thinks they are card-carrying republicans and Trump shouldn't have to "disavow" them. They are idiots.

No need to do "whatabouts".

Actually, whitmer and leftist pundits ARE blaming Trump by name along "right wing militia" (without evidence that they were anything besides anarchists)...meaning gun owners who don't believe leftist dogma.

"whatabouts" are venting about leftist hypocrisy.

 

[Sigblitz]

What's the flag on the right?

Betsy Ross flag with Liberty or Death. It identifies binary decision makers. {:>)

 

[Alpo]

Actually, whitmer and leftist pundits ARE blaming Trump by name along "right wing militia" (without evidence that they were anything besides anarchists)...meaning gun owners who don't believe leftist dogma.

"whatabouts" are venting about leftist hypocrisy.

Then stop listening to them. Michigan hasn't had good luck with governors since Romney.

 

[JettaKnight]

Betsy Ross flag with Liberty or Death. It identifies binary decision makers. :>)

 

[JettaKnight]

And how the lady trying to send ricin poison thru the mail and tried to drive to the whitehouse armed was just dismissed by the media. But, some people are ok making excuses and voting for corruption.

How were either situation dismissed?

I clear remember story after story on NPR about the softball game.

 

[GIJEW]

Just had that discussion at work. The only ones we see are the extremes, most of the country are closer to the center than people realize. I don’t judge parties by their extremists, I measure them on the size of their extremists. The Bernie bro’s have made up a huge portion of extremists the past few years, but they don’t like the democrat platform much, only certain politicians (AOC, Omar) so they’re pretty much irrelevant, imo.

I wish the middle would come together and run the left/right extremists into the hills so we could get back to normal political processes, but as long as the media keeps the flame burning it’ll never happen.

I disagree that they're irrevalent. IMO the left wing extremists' representatives in the dem. party have taken enough power there to control agendas. I understand that sanders co-authored the dem. party platform; AOCs new-green-scam is part of it; antifa/bernie-bros, marxist BLM, islamist enemies like omar, are all calling for burning the country down, and harris (a left wing radical herself) said in june that "the 'protests' won't end after the election--and shouldn't". Dem. establishment types like biden and pelosi are dancing to the radical's tune in order to hold power. Where's the dem. "middle"? After the 1st DNC debate in 2015, Jim Webb said "there's no place for me in the party" and otherwise, patriotic UAW/AFL-CIO workers are manipulated with "vote your job" and orange-man bad, raCiASt, propaganda.

 

[HoughMade]

Then stop listening to them. Michigan hasn't had good luck with governors since Romney.

I liked John Engler. Voted for him twice.

 

[GIJEW]

Then stop listening to them..

But they're like the neighbors from hell who are too obnoxious, loud, and even dangerous, to ignore

 

[Hatin Since 87]

How were either situation dismissed?

I clear remember story after story on NPR about the softball game.

I also read a story about the ricin poison, but they didn’t attempt to tie that to any politician and it was swiftly swept under the rug and reporting stopped after a day. I had to watch Kyle Rittenhouse get called a white supremacist for a month, and demands for trump to denounce his actions.

Can we just agree crazy doesn’t know a political party, so every time crazy **** happens we don’t try to tie it to a political party?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I disagree that they're irrevalent. IMO the left wing extremists' representatives in the dem. party have taken enough power there to control agendas. I understand that sanders co-authored the dem. party platform; AOCs new-green-scam is part of it; antifa/bernie-bros, marxist BLM, islamist enemies like omar, are all calling for burning the country down, and harris (a left wing radical herself) said in june that "the 'protests' won't end after the election--and shouldn't". Dem. establishment types like biden and pelosi are dancing to the radical's tune in order to hold power. Where's the dem. "middle"? After the 1st DNC debate in 2015, Jim Webb said "there's no place for me in the party" and otherwise, patriotic UAW/AFL-CIO workers are manipulated with "vote your job" and orange-man bad, raCiASt, propaganda.

I don’t wanna put any labels on anyone that might disagree with the label, but I believe alpo is a good example of the dem middle. He’s said numerous times they need to lock up rioters, doesn’t fully support the BLM movement, supports the police, etc. I think there’s a lot more of those dems than we see, but the extremist make the headlines. Just because a dem supports a party doesn’t mean they support everything tied to their party. That’s a slippery slope to take. I support trump 100000000%, so does the KKK, and I wish the KKK would go to hell.

 

[GIJEW]

I don’t wanna put any labels on anyone that might disagree with the label, but I believe alpo is a good example of the dem middle. He’s said numerous times they need to lock up rioters, doesn’t fully support the BLM movement, supports the police, etc. I think there’s a lot more of those dems than we see, but the extremist make the headlines. Just because a dem supports a party doesn’t mean they support everything tied to their party. That’s a slippery slope to take. I support trump 100000000%, so does the KKK, and I wish the KKK would go to hell.

My point is that the left wing are NOT irrevalent since sanders and the expanding "squad" have enough influence to control agendas

 

[Hatin Since 87]

My point is that the left wing are NOT irrevalent since sanders and the expanding "squad" have enough influence to control agendas

And with that I agree 100%


Although, imo anyways, it’s only in certain areas. This is why Biden refuses to make a statement on packing the courts and green new deal, because he knows middle America and most dems are more in the center, so if he announces support to pack the courts and the green new deal he risks losing those middle dems... but if he says he doesn’t he loses those extremists votes in NY and California.

Utah dems are a lot different than California dems. The democrats know this, and that’s why they tread topics lightly, to avoid alienating one or the other. This is why trump and pence have pressed so hard on the issues of green new deal, fracking, and SCOTUS... they’re attempting to force them into alienating their own voters. Genius really.

I believe the extremists will eventually become more common as the younger generation comes up and begins voting, and there won’t be a distinction between Utah dems and California dems, but I think this election cycle they have to be weary of what they do and say to not turn voters against them. Hence the careful wording of “Antifa is just an idea”.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I disagree that they're irrevalent. IMO the left wing extremists' representatives in the dem. party have taken enough power there to control agendas. I understand that sanders co-authored the dem. party platform; AOCs new-green-scam is part of it; antifa/bernie-bros, marxist BLM, islamist enemies like omar, are all calling for burning the country down, and harris (a left wing radical herself) said in june that "the 'protests' won't end after the election--and shouldn't". Dem. establishment types like biden and pelosi are dancing to the radical's tune in order to hold power. Where's the dem. "middle"? After the 1st DNC debate in 2015, Jim Webb said "there's no place for me in the party" and otherwise, patriotic UAW/AFL-CIO workers are manipulated with "vote your job" and orange-man bad, raCiASt, propaganda.

What makes Kamala Harris a “radical?” Or better yet, can you explain exactly what that is, because it seems like a catch all for anyone who isn’t supporting Trump or is a Democrat.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Not to dismiss it, because that was a serious tragic situation. The difference, is that it was a lone gunman with his own set of beliefs from which he acted. Comparatively, 13 guys organizing a conspiracy, and attempting to bring in other groups, can be a tad bit more dangerous if their plans come to fruitation.

no one on the left or in the media blamed sanders for it. did anyone blame trump or his supporters for this?

this is my point

 

[NKBJ]

Gosh, I wonder what the Wolverines of the 90's would have to say about this comic book.

 

[qwerty]

Delaware’s Democrat governor in 2019 pardoned defendant in Michigan kidnap plot

https://justthenews.com/nation/crim...-2019-pardoned-defendant-michigan-kidnap-plot

 

[Kutnupe14]

no one on the left or in the media blamed sanders for it. did anyone blame trump or his supporters for this?

this is my point

That’s a fair point.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

There used to be a pretty active militia group up there but it fell apart several years go. They had an internet radio station that I think I remember being called the Liberty Tree.

These dudes sound smart enough to water the Liberty Tree by pissing on it.

 

[Route 45]

Interesting take from a Michigan sheriff on the kidnapping plot. "Maybe it was a citizen's arrest."



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