Someone doesn't read the law for the State Fair

[BehindBlueI's]

The usual reasons.

Gun in reach for either hand. Back up gun for malfunctions, quicker reloads, a gun to arm friend and/or family.

What 5 guns, and how?

 

[actaeon277]

If some people think 5 is outrageous, well a lot of people think 2 is outrageous. And some think 1 is.
If the guy isn't out committing crimes, I'll let him decide.

Kinda like the people that tell me, "NO ONE needs 30 round magazines".


[video=youtube;c2tAHnb06tU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tAHnb06tU[/video]

 

[lovemachine]

What 5 guns, and how?

I've no idea.

 

[eldirector]

Wow, I learn something every day!
i thought this was similar to the school grounds law.
So, what's the purpose of IAC, if there is no punishment for breaking that type of law(?)?

It makes the fair board feel better, like they are "doing something". They can also cover their butts if a criminal decides to, well, be a criminal.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I've no idea.

You know three different people who carry five guns, know their training backgrounds, and don't know what they carry or how they do it? Huh. Well if you get the chance, see if you can't find out and satisfy our curiosity.

 

[bwframe]

What 5 guns, and how?

I've no idea.

You know three different people who carry five guns, know their training backgrounds, and don't know what they carry or how they do it? Huh. Well if you get the chance, see if you can't find out and satisfy our curiosity.

There is a code of silence...

I just wonder what THIS guy's INGO handle is?

 

[BTSTEVE]

It makes the fair board feel better, like they are "doing something". They can also cover their butts if a criminal decides to, well, be a criminal.

How can they confiscate the guns if the IAC is not a law?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

How can they confiscate the guns if the IAC is not a law?

Laws come in different flavors. Think of building codes. You can't get arrested for having an out of spec garage, but you can be subject to a court order to bring it up to code. If you fail to comply, then there are laws that cover you failing to comply with the court order.

So, this is in IAC:

"(c) Any deadly weapon found in the possession of a person while on the fairgrounds during the annual state fair is subject to
immediate confiscation by law enforcement officers or other persons authorized by the executive director of the state fair commission."

That gives the police the authority to confiscate the weapon, just like the relevant codes gave the building inspector the right to inspect your new garage. If you refuse to comply and run or struggle, then you're going to run afoul of portions of the criminal law code in IN 35-44.1-3

 

[foszoe]

This pic is awesome!!! Where did it come from?

 

[jbombelli]

This pic is awesome!!! Where did it come from?

That's Il Duce, a character from the movie Boondock Saints.

 

[metaldog]

This pic is awesome!!! Where did it come from?

The movie Boondock Saints 2. But watch the first one before watching the second. Great movie & funny too!

 

[arthrimus]

Laws come in different flavors. Think of building codes. You can't get arrested for having an out of spec garage, but you can be subject to a court order to bring it up to code. If you fail to comply, then there are laws that cover you failing to comply with the court order.

So, this is in IAC:

"(c) Any deadly weapon found in the possession of a person while on the fairgrounds during the annual state fair is subject to
immediate confiscation by law enforcement officers or other persons authorized by the executive director of the state fair commission."

That gives the police the authority to confiscate the weapon, just like the relevant codes gave the building inspector the right to inspect your new garage. If you refuse to comply and run or struggle, then you're going to run afoul of portions of the criminal law code in IN 35-44.1-3

But is there any recourse for getting the confiscated weapons back. If you haven't broken a law then I can't see how they can hold your weapons once you have left the fairgrounds.

 

[lovemachine]

N/M.

 

[nakinate]

But is there any recourse for getting the confiscated weapons back. If you haven't broken a law then I can't see how they can hold your weapons once you have left the fairgrounds.

I thought he got his guns back after he left...

 

[PapaScout]

When I first started carrying over ten years ago, like many, I was paranoid that everyone was looking at me. To help get past this I carried three handguns a few times when I was out and about. Not because I thought I'd need them but really just to prove to myself that people don't notice.

ETA: Glock 27 appendix, BHP right hip, Kel-tec P3AT left front pocket. Cargo shorts, t-shirt, and sandals.

Perhaps the guy at the fair grounds had a similar mindset and was working on his ninja-like concealment skills or something.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

But is there any recourse for getting the confiscated weapons back. If you haven't broken a law then I can't see how they can hold your weapons once you have left the fairgrounds.

Sure. There is nothing in the code that allows for permanent confiscation. Unless you meet the criteria in other IC codes (such as you are violently mentally ill or the like) it is temporary, and you'll get them back.

 

[foszoe]

I am so manly I am surprised I carry at all

Those who know me need not reply

 

[MCgrease08]

smilie

I thought he got his guns back after he left...

Burnsy, did you get your guns back?

 

[lonehoosier]

Bump. Going to the state fair on Monday.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Another Bump.

Re-hash: (Unless I've somehow missed a recent development) carrying at the Indiana State Fair is verboten due to the regulations in the Indiana Administrative Code (IAC) - not the criminal code / Indiana Code (IC)