Staccato P, CZ Shadow, ?

[venenoindy]

Im looking for handgun to take some classes with and to shoot extended range sessions, Im looking for something that can reduce as much as possible the recoil due to a wrist injury. I carry and shoot Glock but I want a soft shooting handgun as possible, Staccato P or CZ Shadow 2?, needs to be reliable!

 

[Dean C.]

I had a Shadow 2 in the past and shoot a Staccato P now (my TSO made the Shadow 2 irrelevant). The recoil impulse between the Shadow 2 and P are similar but I prefer the 2011 and it's SAO trigger. The only pistol I have the shoots as softly as my P is my CZ Tactical Sport Orange. That being said the price difference between the two is like $1000 , and the current wait time from Staccato is several months apparently (and don't forget magazines are $70+).

Both are awesome guns , just really comes down to personal preference. If it helps I would buy the P over the Shadow 2 again in a heartbeat

 

[t-squared]

CZ Shadow 2 SA

I picked up a S2 SA about a year ago and love it. With light "minor" loads the recoil is rediculously low.

KYGUNCO has had a variety of the Shadow 2s available lately.

Here's a search from gundeals this morning....Gundeals Shadow 2 search

 

[Dean C.]

CZ Shadow 2 SA

I picked up a S2 SA about a year ago and love it. With light "minor" loads the recoil is rediculously low.

KYGUNCO has had a variety of the Shadow 2s available lately.

Here's a search from gundeals this morning....Gundeals Shadow 2 search

Do you have any issue with the safety on the Shadow 2? The grip was large enough I had a hard time with the standard slim safety, though I shot it mostly DA/SA so the safety was a non issue 95% of the time.

 

[gmcttr]

...With light "minor" loads the recoil is rediculously low...

The above advice on minor loads is right on. I'm not currently reloading for 9mm so I use Federal Syntech 150 gr Action Pistol ammo. It is loaded to just make "minor" classification and is soft shooting. You might also try Syntech 130gr PCC ammo. It is designed to for 16" PCC barrels and will be a light load in a pistol.

I have a Shadow 2 but not having shot the other pistol I can't compare them.

 

[t-squared]

Do you have any issue with the safety on the Shadow 2? The grip was large enough I had a hard time with the standard slim safety, though I shot it mostly DA/SA so the safety was a non issue 95% of the time.

No I don't. I use it as a "shelf" for my thumb just like a 1911. I've got fairly large hands, and for me, the ergos if the Shadow are what helped me get past the spendy price tag.

One thing I do have a small issue with is the little ledge on the slide release. I rest my left thumb on it and it can start to annoy it if I shoot a bunch in a session. Granted, it wouldn't take much to remove or angle it to eliminate the issue.

 

[Dean C.]

^^

Makes sense, I had to install the large thumb safety on my TSO so I could reliably flick it off. For whatever reason I have a much harder time with CZ safety's than 1911's. Not sure if it would work on a Shadow 2 but I just totally removed my slide release, got in the way of the gas pedal.

 

[t-squared]

Those TSOs are so sweet for sure! Color me jelly....!!!!

 

[zachcz]

Shadow. Cz is always the answer.

 

[dekindy]

Full size S&W M&P 2.0 is a very soft shooter. I shoot the standard trigger just fine but there is also Apex if you must.

 

[venenoindy]

Full size S&W M&P 2.0 is a very soft shooter. I shoot the standard trigger just fine but there is also Apex if you must.

I end up getting an M&P 2.0 performance center ported, I did get the Apex flat trigger and a 15# recoil spring and WOW this thing is a soft and flat shooter.

 

[PAT458]

I really like my CZ Shadow 2. At nearly 3 pounds, it is a very soft shooter. It really made me a better shooter but the gun is still better than me. Also, I really like my Dan Wesson 1911 Valor in 9mm. Probably the best trigger . Bought Wilson Combat magazines. These two guns are the favorites in my collection.