Statement from the family of Osama Bin Laden

[misconfig]

Agree with this 'killing' or not, they make some valid points on the ethics of Western culture.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/asia/binladen-statement.html?_r=1

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Agree with this 'killing' or not, they make some valid points on the ethics of Western culture.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/asia/binladen-statement.html?_r=1

Idiot rants of a rambling madman. Portraying daddy as a victim of western civilization ignores the fact he was a terrorist who destroyed the lives of an entire generation. While few families were directly affected, this entire nation has been subjected to loss of freedoms on an epic scale due to Bin Laden's criminal and terrorist acts. Why does this family believe themselves better than any other? Thier father was a snivelling coward who sent others to die for his warped sense of morality.

Ye reap what ye sow. Bin Laden would be happily sitting at home watching Burka porn right now had he not chosen to declare war on the United States. You kick a sleeping dog, you'll get bit.

No sympathy, no empathy. Only fleeting contentment.

 

[misconfig]

Idiot rants of a rambling madman. Portraying daddy as a victim of western civilization ignores the fact he was a terrorist who destroyed the lives of an entire generation. While few families were directly affected, this entire nation has been subjected to loss of freedoms on an epic scale due to Bin Laden's criminal and terrorist acts.

Ye reap what ye sow. Bin Laden would be happily sitting at home watching Burka porn right now had he not chosen to declare war on the United States. You kick a sleeping dog, you'll get bit.

No sympathy, no empathy. Only fleeting contentment.

That is of course if you want to believe all of this is real in the first place, not only am I talking about Osama's reported 'death' but 9/11 as well.

Here is the point - there was no trial we just waltzed in there and KILLED all of those people. They want proof just like any other non-vigilante blood-thirsty person on this planet.

I don't care how you look at it, even the Nazi's had a proper trial why shouldn't Osama? Let alone show proof of his death.

I find it kind of ironic how you are so quick to call them idiots for simply asking the US to show it's colors. We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, this is how we treated everyone until now, including Saddam.

Get with the program, broseph.

Our freedoms are going away because of mentality's like this, also I don't personally believe it's morally acceptable to kill over 900,000 people in order to get 1 man that supposedly arranged attacks that killed 3k. Also, if I may so be brazen, there has never been any PROOF that Osama did this, oh and we didn't find WMD's in Iraq.

It doesn't make it right, my friend.

 

[Que]

I understand what he is saying, but if his son was sending messages to his father, why couldn't he have just notified authorities where he was in order for him to be captured alive? Everyone wants to defy our laws and then stand behind them when it's comfortable for them. Well, the writer has exercised his First Amendment right to express himself and I say, "so noted."

 

[misconfig]

but if his son was sending messages to his father, why couldn't he have just notified authorities where he was in order for him to be captured alive?

Because it's an elaborate ruse, my friend.

 

[Que]

Because it's an elaborate ruse, my friend.

What was?

 

[christman]

Because it's an elaborate ruse, my friend.

I tend to agree, and Im not a member of any other tin-foil campagns....yet.

 

[Expat]

So it appears that al Qaeda and all of UBL's family agree he is dead. I think the folks on this forum are now the only hold outs.

 

[misconfig]

What was?

The entire situation, all of the events leading up to and even continuing after Osama's death.

Now look, conquest in Syria and Libya, shouldn't Osama's death put this entire war on terror to rest as opposed to fueling more wars?

This isn't our first rodeo (e.g: Perl Harbor)

 

[misconfig]

So it appears that al Qaeda and all of UBL's family agree he is dead. I think the folks on this forum are now the only hold outs.

I wouldn't be so quick to make that assumption, they are asking for PROOF of his death. It seems to me they're planning to default and assume he is dead without any evidence, therefore contacting the UN and creating a proper trial against the United States for war crimes.

Waltzing into an allied nation without their consent and massacring unarmed people, no proof of Osama's death - NOT BUYING IT.

 

[misconfig]

I tend to agree, and Im not a member of any other tin-foil campagns....yet.

I wouldn't call myself a tin foil hat guy per se. Although just like religions I refute claims made by others, with no evidence I cannot simply believe something is so.

 

[Que]

The entire situation, all of the events leading up to and even continuing after Osama's death.

Now look, conquest in Syria and Libya, shouldn't Osama's death put this entire war on terror to rest as opposed to fueling more wars?

This isn't our first rodeo (e.g: Perl Harbor)

Just because you kill a man doesn't always mean the ideology he embraced dies with him. If you agree he is dead, then I just can't understand what you are talking about? So, everything was pretend, except for the death? To what end? What am I missing?

 

[christman]

So it appears that al Qaeda and all of UBL's family agree he is dead. I think the folks on this forum are now the only hold outs.

What better way to bring the heat off someone than to agree he is dead??

I actually think he is dead, I just don't think it happened how it was portrayed. (Date, Place)

 

[E5RANGER375]

so their father who abandoned them to be a terrorist is suddenly killed and they want their 15 minutes of fame. thats what im getting here. they are gathering a team of lawyers....... wooooooooooo, scary. does anyone give a flying **** what international law or the UN says to us? I dont. let them come here and try to enforce something.

 

[Britton]

let them come here and try to enforce something.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=171383742893404

 

[Bond 281]

Agree with this 'killing' or not, they make some valid points on the ethics of Western culture.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/asia/binladen-statement.html?_r=1

I'm not convinced that a trial would be needed or justified. He's a worldwide known, self-acknowledged terrorist, essentially a militant outlaw. A trial would be a formality, at the very best. However, given that we've engaged in military action against him and his organization, that well removes him from criminal status, and with that he loses all expectations of a trial.

And the comparison to Nazis doesn't hold at all. Trials were given for captured Nazis, not those that we killed in the course of the war. The decision to kill instead of risk capturing isn't one that I have a real problem with. He supposedly resisted anyway. I honestly have far more of an issue with us holding prisoners in military prisons with no charges, evidence, or trials than I would ever have with us killing the leader of a terrorist organization.

I don't see how anything that transpired about the killing itself is in any way a negative reflection of Western ethics.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

so their father who abandoned them to be a terrorist is suddenly killed and they want their 15 minutes of fame. thats what im getting here. they are gathering a team of lawyers...QUOTE]


Maybe they're trying to make a claim for his money and this whole UN / lawyer affair plays into that .

 

[misconfig]

Just because you kill a man doesn't always mean the ideology he embraced dies with him. If you agree he is dead, then I just can't understand what you are talking about? So, everything was pretend, except for the death? To what end? What am I missing?

I believe he is dead but I do not believe for 1 second the US killed him.

 

[CarmelHP]

Agree with this 'killing' or not, they make some valid points on the ethics of Western culture.

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/asia/binladen-statement.html?_r=1

It's "unworthy of Special Forces" but it is apparently "worthy" of their homicidal lunatic progenitor to incinerate women and children going peacefully about their daily lives. The rest of the family should be sent to reunite to the dearly departed.

 

[CarmelHP]

Also, if I may so be brazen, there has never been any PROOF that Osama did this, ...

Admission to a crime is usually pretty good proof.