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Tactical Double Barrel
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Frontiersman
Sharpshooter
Or his double ...
I just threw up in my mouth a little....
Like a lot of things I think that it depends on your situation. A 10 gauge 3.5 has 16 .32 caliber pellets, used inside it's effective range, it hits. Where I live ranges are short and I figure most "issues" happen at night when you may be shooting quickly from cover at where a muzzle flash was a moment ago.
Also double shotguns are going to be one of the last things leadership is likely to take, based on my observation of gun laws in other places over time.
Also double shotguns are going to be one of the last things leadership is likely to take, based on my observation of gun laws in other places over time.
I've got a savage (I think) 311 double 12 with a tritium front site. 20" barrels.No recoil pad...it's not my go to, bump in the night gun, but it does work well for it's intended use, but I prefer more available rounds.
But they will take it eventually
99zhuggerz99
Marksman
With a Stoeger what is the allure of a tac version vs the simple coach? (The over/under seems interesting as well)
someone made the comment about doubles would be taken last (maybe); but an attorney holding up one vs the other might matter in an HD situation.
someone made the comment about doubles would be taken last (maybe); but an attorney holding up one vs the other might matter in an HD situation.
Frontiersman
Sharpshooter
Actually, I would prefer a standard blue/wood shotgun.
But the tac version provides rails to mount a flashlight.
But the tac version provides rails to mount a flashlight.
If you like it get it!
I was shooting with some guys and one of them had what he called a "tactical coach gun" , not sure who made it but it was really cool
All blacked out, had these cool machined hammers on it ,think it had some picatinny for mounting a light and it had some night sights
I'd definitely like to get one for fun but if you're after an HD gun and have decided on shotgun I'd just get a pump that holds plenty of shells
I was shooting with some guys and one of them had what he called a "tactical coach gun" , not sure who made it but it was really cool
All blacked out, had these cool machined hammers on it ,think it had some picatinny for mounting a light and it had some night sights
I'd definitely like to get one for fun but if you're after an HD gun and have decided on shotgun I'd just get a pump that holds plenty of shells
I have a hard time with gun mounted lights. You with a light on and me without where do you think my rounds are going. Doing a house clearing is not part of a husbands, boyfriends, or whatevers job description. Lights will get you shot if bad guy has a gun. If you have the need to use a gun at night ambient should be enough. You want the bad guy back lite which gives you an outline to shoot into.
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Most of your reasoning has been debunked in the other thread or by most trainers.
1) Proper use of a proper light WILL put the bad guy at a disadvantage.
2) House clearing? How about when wife wakes you up and asks you to investigate " I heard something" sound? Do your kids sleep in your room?
3) Lights WILL stop you from making the biggest mistake ever of shooting a wandering family member.
4) Um, if the bad guy is back lighted won't YOU be front lighted?
I suggest you get some low light realistic training. It may be a real eye opener for you. Or not.
1) Proper use of a proper light WILL put the bad guy at a disadvantage.
2) House clearing? How about when wife wakes you up and asks you to investigate " I heard something" sound? Do your kids sleep in your room?
3) Lights WILL stop you from making the biggest mistake ever of shooting a wandering family member.
4) Um, if the bad guy is back lighted won't YOU be front lighted?
I suggest you get some low light realistic training. It may be a real eye opener for you. Or not.
I take it you've never actually trained with a weapon mounted light.
What works in the real world is not what some experts teach. I have lost friends in the real world that had to use a light which got them dead. It is how and when to use a light and a large percent of the experts have not been under fire. The very good ones have but they don't say their way is the best, it was just the way that worked for them.
You need to get into a course at mtac, as far as possible. Sage has a course coming up and he will put your anecdotal experience into fact based reality. There is zero reason to not have a wml on a self defense firearm. This isn't combat, it's interior conflict in an environment rich with friendly movers.
kickbacked
Master
- Jan 12, 2010
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this entire thread is crazy. Tactical double barrels, lights getting people killed
I looked at the coach version of that shotgun. It looked pretty cool, i almost bought one for fun. I have a hard time thinking it could do anything better than a pump/semi in home defense other than a quicker follow up shot. The issue i see with it is that in a high pressure scenario it will be a lot tougher to reload, & you're already going in with less ammo. That shotgun doesnt eject shells. So you're going to have to pick them out and then try and slam two back in quickly and hope you dont fumble with them. But ive never been in a shootout with a double barrel and maybe you are extremely proficient with that platform. Just my thoughts.
I looked at the coach version of that shotgun. It looked pretty cool, i almost bought one for fun. I have a hard time thinking it could do anything better than a pump/semi in home defense other than a quicker follow up shot. The issue i see with it is that in a high pressure scenario it will be a lot tougher to reload, & you're already going in with less ammo. That shotgun doesnt eject shells. So you're going to have to pick them out and then try and slam two back in quickly and hope you dont fumble with them. But ive never been in a shootout with a double barrel and maybe you are extremely proficient with that platform. Just my thoughts.
Generally a shotgun is sub optimal in any gun fight anyway. That said i do have a sawed off over under for fun. I have a very nice fn slp, a benelli, and a franchi. None of them are even on my consideration list for defense if i can get to an ar I'm getting to the ar over the shotgun in every conceivable scenario. My slp does have a wml, my tactical double barrel is getting one i think lol
I would like to see the AAR's on those situations. I've been all over and searched high and low and can't find any in the past 25 years. Person mistakenly killing family member are somewhat easier to find.
