Taqueria robber shot dead by patron. video /bad shoot?

[Sigblitz]

Your character, is constantly being judged by those that surround you.

Yes, you are right. And the hero had aggressive thoughts, which is completely normal given the circumstances. He acted on it and committed a crime of passion.

 

[Sigblitz]

I wish I could say I have the same confidence as you.
Reality has a way of punching you in the face. Believing you can control an adrenaline dump, fear, sensory overload, or any of the other numerous things happening in a similar situation, is naive.

Next time you're in on, and you know when you are, think choice, and hold that thought.

 

[PRasko]

Yea. The last shot when he held the perps gun is going to get him a murder charge. It's Texas so it'll probably get pled to manslaughter, but either way it's going to be time.

 

[cg21]

Not to mention we didn’t really SEE anything maybe he was reaching for his waistband ? Kinda hard to judge from where we’re sitting

 

[Ziggidy]

Something is not right here, a bit strange. I’m thinking the shooter has a rap record and left because he knows he’s in deep trouble.

It was all too easy for him.


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[OurDee]

Paul Harrel shoots dead meat all the time.

 

[foszoe]

Tequila kills.

 

[MikeDVB]

Probably going to jail/prison for sure. That said - it took him AGES to draw his firearm.

 

[nonobaddog]

 

[bobzilla]

Your character will be judged in any shtf situation, by your friends, family, wife, girlfriend, colleagues, and their level of trust in you depends on the decisions you make.

I’m pretty much past giving a **** what people view or judge me as. I’m also pretty much past giving a duck when a piece of **** thug takes the room temp challenge. **** around and find out.

 

[rosejm]

That said - it took him AGES to draw his firearm.

These two videos didn't show the very beginning of the robbery where it looks like he surreptitiously draws AIWB & stages the pistol on his left. Most of those (news footage below) stop just before the first shot. Not clear if that left side action was chambering a round, or more likely a non-ambi safety.

He then waited for his turn while staged, until the robber showed his back.



I've got no love lost here, but it may be wise for us all to consider the average grand jury panelist and the average jurist. It's likely that most would consider the last shot excessive, and quite likely the 4 preceding shots as well - even if we might look on them with far more leniency.

 

[2tonic]

I humbly ask those who are asserting that the last shot fired was unnecessary, please tell us where the robbers hands were, and what was in them, at the time of the shot.
We are all, to one degree or another, commenting on how things appeared to be, not how they actually were.
The robbers upper torso is blocked from camera view by the shooter, so we're only able to speculate. Most of the patrons, that is "witnesses" view was similarly blocked. Until another camera angle can be found, there is no proof to contradict, or corroborate, self defense.

I agree that it looks bad, at the end, but we weren't there.
A lot more evidence has to be acquired, such as bullet trajectories, number of wounds, etc., before it can be called a bad shoot.

 

[xwing]

And the tone here would be completely different. Something something executioner something something.

I don't know about that so. I always appreciate it when the police save the taxpayers' money by forgoing the need for a trial & lengthy incarceration for the scumbag.

Back to the OP: IMO the last rounds look like a "not good shoot", although the initial ones were completely justified. I guess we'll learn more when the rest of the details come out.

 

[Bassat]

The great Charlie Brown (yes, that one) one opined, "Stupid should hurt." Well, it certainly hurt the robber. I am afraid it is going to hurt the shooter, also.

If on the jury, the charge would likely determine my vote. If he is charged with murder, I'm "not guilty" before opening statements.

 

[2in1evtime]

Another bad guy taken down, we weren't there, poor video, at least that state wont have to spend a fortune on trial, housing and feeding after conviction.

 

[Bassat]

I’m okay with the shooting. He fired until he was satisfied the threat was completely over.

Unfortunately, he won't be judged by whether or not HE was SATISFIED. By that standard, I should be allowed to track down and kill ANYONE who has EVER committed a violent personal crime. He will be judged according to what a bunch of folks who've never been in that position think is REASONABLE. If he goes to trial.

 

[K_W]

Would anyone here convict if on the jury?
Criminals need to learn that their way of life isn't worth the risk.

Nope, DEADLY force justified. He's dead, justifiably.

Frankly, I wouldn't care if he reloaded and emptied another mag into him.

I would not do that, but will not judge someone who did in that situation.

 

[Bassat]

From the law's view it probably was a good shoot, up until the robber went down and stopped being a threat. Personally, I'm glad the shooter mag-dumped. All violent felons need to be executed on the spot.

Executed on the spot? You don't even believe that yourself. I am quite sure you will continue to think that way when you do a 'good shoot', and some other good-guy-with-a-gun assumes you are a violent felon.

 

[Rick Mason]

Another look at the Taqueria Throwdown from The Law of Self Defense channel

 

[nonobaddog]

Another look at the Taqueria Throwdown from The Law of Self Defense channel

Eight minutes in and they haven't said anything. If someone wants to summarize that would be great - otherwise TL;DL