Texas dems flee state to avoid vote on election bill

[phylodog]

I hope every single one of them gets it. I don't hope any of them die or suffer permanent damage but I won't deny that I'd get a kick out of it kicking the **** out of them for a few weeks.

 

[actaeon277]

I wonder what the percentages are on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.

 

[maxipum]

I wonder what the percentages are on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.

Me to, awfully quiet about us survivors.

 

[actaeon277]

2 more tested positive.
What were they doing? Lip lock?

 

[JAL]

2 more tested positive.
What were they doing? Lip lock?

Saw the selfies from their chartered plane flight. It was like the frat party scene from Animal House.

 

[bwframe]

There is so much crap to sort out here. From a crowd famous for looking you right in the eye and lying to you.

 

[triggerhappy00]

Looks like number six was just confirmed. Their vacation isn't going as planned.

 

[KittySlayer]

2 more tested positive.
What were they doing? Lip lock?

Is that why Kamala had to be tested? Training these up and coming politicians on advancing their careers using a Lip Loc?

 

[foszoe]

These people are full on idiots.


Either they are lying about being vaccinated OR the vaccine sucks.


I know I don't typically like binary thinking but sometimes even I get mad.

 

[wtburnette]

I think it's a mixture of both. I really don't believe it when politicians are saying they've been vaccinated and I also have been hearing that the efficacy of the vaccine is lower than it was purported to be.

 

[OakRiver]

 

[tbhausen]

“Following all appropriate guidance”?

 

[KittySlayer]

SENIOR SPOKESPERSON FOR NANCY PELOSI

So the Senior spokesperson does not have contact with Nancy, the person he is supposed to be speaking on behalf of. How does that work?

 

[rhamersley]

So the Senior spokesperson does not have contact with Nancy, the person he is supposed to be speaking on behalf of. How does that work?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Is that why Kamala had to be tested? Training these up and coming politicians on advancing their careers using a Lip Loc?

I didn't realize a person could get COVID by locking one's lips on richard.

 

[JAL]

These people are full on idiots.


Either they are lying about being vaccinated OR the vaccine sucks.

Saw interview with Karl Rove this morning in which he stated they all were required to be vaccinated to enter the statehouse. How long ago is a relevant question as it takes a couple weeks or so to become fully effective. Remember the three in the US are RNA vaccines, not the ones like smallpox that introduce a benign form of the virus to trigger antibody production. It's a different mechanism to generate immunity. (Not certain what the Euro vax is.) If they were fully vaxed a month ago it shouts volumes about vax efficacy.

What can be stated is none have severe symptoms (yet). In addition, the WH isn't talking about vax "breakthroughs" other than fatalities. CDC released a report about vax breakthroughs reported to them from Jan 1st - April 30th by 46 states and territories. That means some combination of 10 jurisdictions did not report anything to the CDC:

• 50 States
• District of Columbia
• 5 Populated Territories (American Samoa, Guam, Marianas Islands, USVI, & Puerto Rico)
• Total: 56 sovereign or semi-sovereign jurisdictions, 10 of which are missing from the data.

It's important to note that reporting to CDC is voluntary, requested and encouraged, but not required. In addition, they must rely on the veracity and integrity in the reporting. I've attached the PDF of the report but it's a difficult read wading through the 3rd and 4th paragraphs and trying to do the math to distill the numbers down to how many contracted Wuhan after complete vaccination, how many were hospitalized with it as the proximate cause for hospitalization, and how many died from it as proximate cause of death. Be cautious about doing math regarding total reported breakthroughs as a percentage of total fully vaccinated. It would only reflect total reported cases with undoubtedly a significant number of asymptomatic not being reported plus a sizeable number with minor symptoms that don't bother with a physician or testing.

I put together a spreadsheet to create a summary of the numbers in a table for clarity. This is a table with the relevant numbers:

Category	Number	Percent of Total	Notes
Total Reported to CDC	10,262	100%
Female	6446	62.8%
Male	3816	37.2%
Asymptomatic *	2725	26.6%
Symptomatic	7537	73.4%
Known Hospitalizations	995	9.7%
Hospital Due to Wuhan	706	6.9%
Hospital Other than Wuhan	289	2.8%	Includes Asymptomatic
Hospital Deaths	160	1.6%
Died From Wuhan	132	1.3%	22.7% in Hosp due to Wuhan
Died From Other Causes	28	0.3%	Includes Asymptomatic

• Total Vaccinated as of 30 April: 101 Million
• Vax breakthroughs are likely to be much higher than reported; asymptomatic or nearly so are unlikely to be tested.
• Median Age of Total Reported Vax Breakthroughs: 58
• Interquartile Age Range of Total: 40 - 74 (the middle 50%)
• Median Age of Breakthrough Deaths: 82
• Interquartile Age Range of Deaths: 71-89
• Alpha variant 50% more transmissible than original
• Delta variant 125% more transmissible than original (50% more than the Alpha)

What does this mean (to me)?
Given 101 Million vaccinated, the likelihood of a vaccinated person presenting symptoms of Wuhan significant enough to result in testing is exceptionally low. It's minuscule. For those who test positive, the likelihood of being hospitalized is quite low. For those hospitalized due to Wuhan (706), 23% probability of dying from it which isn't good, but it's low. The greatest risk demographic for breakthrough death is women between 71-89 years old, especially those with underlying chronic health issues including obesity, diabetes, hypertension and other cardiovascular issues such as asthma, or otherwise have a significantly suppressed immune system (e.g. recovering from open heart surgery or from a stroke).

Just because someone has been vaccinated doesn't make them immune, unlike the rubbish being tossed out by Biden, Fauci, and Psaki. No vaccination will prevent you from contracting the disease. What it does do is very greatly increase probability it will be asymptomatic following exposure as the body's immune system deals with it immediately and very effectively. For those that present identifiable symptoms it greatly reduces severity. The Delta variant is going to spread much, much faster than the original. Growth rates are exponential, and the exponent has leaped.

I'm not going to attempt creating a percentage statistic for breakthroughs of total vaccinations. Ten sovereign jurisdictions haven't reported vax breakthrough numbers to the CDC which is significant. Only 78% of the individual states and territories are represented by these numbers. It would be disingenuous and misleading. Hope this helps understand the risks better and makes more sense than the mainstream media rubbish. I've made every attempt to be a disinterested observer and neutral with this.

Spreadsheet created using the CDC report to populate the table above is attached in a ZIP archive as the forum software doesn't allow attaching "XLSX" files, but does allow ZIP archives.

John

 

[actaeon277]

 

[actaeon277]

 

[actaeon277]

Also, a Rep. Pelosi aide, and a White House official.

 

[Hkindiana]

Just because someone has been vaccinated doesn't make them immune, unlike the rubbish being tossed out by Biden, Fauci, and Psaki. No vaccination will prevent you from contracting the disease. What it does do is very greatly increase probability it will be asymptomatic following exposure as the body's immune system deals with it immediately and very effectively. For those that present identifiable symptoms it greatly reduces severity. The Delta variant is going to spread much, much faster than the original. Growth rates are exponential, and the exponent has leaped.

I thought the Polio vaccine PREVENTED you from getting polio?