The best way to reduce gun violence is to end the Drug War

[rambone]

Not only should we learn this point, but we should be using it to defend the 2nd Amendment. A great deal of violence in this country is perpetrated by gangs fighting over drugs and the turf on which they can sell them. All these conflicts disappear when the black market ceases to exist.

How Ending the War on Drugs Could Curb Gun Violence

But we need to be talking about the kind of commonplace brutality most of us could never imagine, and about the drug prohibition that feeds it. We need to ask ourselves: Could ending the war on drugs be one of our best weapons in preventing gun violence?

It’s Black Markets 101, experts said: Drug prohibition breeds gun violence. A prohibited substance, especially an addictive one, can yield tremendous profits for organizations that can afford the many costs associated with smuggling. By definition, you can’t get legal protections to sell an illegal product. And when high profits are at stake and the courts are out of the picture, justice is often administered through violence.

 

[Liberty1911]

Because all those gang bangers are going to be unemployed when the black market drug revenue dries up, so they'll obviously have no choice except to get jobs and become law abiding citizens.

 

[Jludo]

I agree with ending the drug war. If there wasn't a lucrative drug business for gang bangers violence would have to drop. How else would the gang members make money?

 

[rambone]

Because all those gang bangers are going to be unemployed when the black market drug revenue dries up, so they'll obviously have no choice except to get jobs and become law abiding citizens.

One thing is for sure, they won't be selling baggies of plants for hundreds of dollars a pop. Ending the black market cuts the legs out of their lucrative underground business. Remove the money, and the rest of the problems will solve themselves.

 

[Liberty1911]

One thing is for sure, they won't be selling baggies of plants for hundreds of dollars a pop. Ending the black market cuts the legs out of their lucrative underground business. Remove the money, and the rest of the problems will solve themselves.

Criminals are criminals. They may move into a different business but if you think ending the drug war will suddenly make them hard working law abiding citizens, you're living in a fantasy world.

 

[Lycurgus]

it's not really the weed..it's the crack and cocaine. plus a few other things

you want to legalize those?

 

[rambone]

Criminals are criminals. They may move into a different business but if you think ending the drug war will suddenly make them hard working law abiding citizens, you're living in a fantasy world.

Nobody is claiming that 100% of criminals will disappear. But ending the black market gives gangs wayyyyyy less income as well as less things to fight over. Violence would absolutely drop.

 

[rambone]

it's not really the weed..it's the crack and cocaine. plus a few other things

you want to legalize those?

Yeah. Its not like the laws are stopping anybody from doing them.

Life would go on as normal. It would cost taxpayers a lot less, shrink government, and reduce gang violence.

 

[Lycurgus]

Yeah. Its not like the laws are stopping anybody from doing them.

Life would go on as normal. It would cost taxpayers a lot less, shrink government, and reduce gang violence.

talk about the zombie apocalypse what are you smoking?

 

[rambone]

talk about the zombie apocalypse what are you smoking?

Give a valid reason things would be worse than they are today.

 

[Lycurgus]

Give a valid reason things would be worse than they are today.

there would be no fear of prosecution more people would become users and then they would become addicts.They would more than likely loose/quit there jobs,crime rates would rise due to theft to support their habits.more lives would be destroyed from the drugs themselves..

 

[Lycurgus]

have you ever been around any addicts??

 

[Liberty1911]

Give a valid reason things would be worse than they are today.

If you agree to simultaneously test everyone on ANY TYPE of public assistance (I don't care even if it's just WIC) for drugs (you can throw alcohol in too for all I care), and if positive, they permanently lose the ability to EVER receive ANY TYPE of public assistance again, then I'll support legalization. We also test all new applicants going forward, and test all current applicants every 90 days.

Do we have an accord?

 

[rambone]

there would be no fear of prosecution more people would become users and then they would become addicts.They would more than likely loose/quit there jobs,crime rates would rise due to theft to support their habits.more lives would be destroyed from the drugs themselves..

A person who would actually contemplate using CRACK isn't going to let a stupid law get in their way. The same exact people are going to be addicts with or without the law. Just look around. You might have noticed that we have strict laws and still there are drugs on every street in America. The laws do nothing but cost taxpayers a fortune and make gangs a lot of money.

 

[Lycurgus]

I guarantee if hard drugs became easily available(gas station & stores) and accepted/legal there would be an large increase in addicts.

it's ok they legalized it..try some..

 

[Lucas156]

I guarantee if hard drugs became easily available(gas station & stores) and accepted/legal there would be an large increase in addicts.

it's ok they legalized it..try some..

Has this been proven? I can see why you think that but most people I know don't not smoke crack because its against the law; they don't smoke crack because they think its stupid. If when they legalize marijuana which I am for, I won't be smoking it.

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

I guarantee if hard drugs became easily available(gas station & stores) and accepted/legal there would be an large increase in addicts.

it's ok they legalized it..try some..

I guess Amsterdam didnt get this message

 

[qwerty]

Milton Friedman said it best.... 40 years ago:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY[/ame]

 

[Stschil]

So, when Prohibition ended, so did the Mob, right, right?

 

[cobber]

One thing is for sure, they won't be selling baggies of plants for hundreds of dollars a pop. Ending the black market cuts the legs out of their lucrative underground business. Remove the money, and the rest of the problems will solve themselves.

If it's legal and taxed, they'll sell untaxed weed. Since the .gov will jack up the tax like it does on tobacco.

Otherwise they'll move into other drugs or some other graft. E.G., illegal guns, untaxed smokes, health care (after Obamacare is implemented).