The Hillary Hole and how to deal with that stupid lock:

[Psode27]

Geesh! Now I have to buy a S&W so I can remove the lock!

I've been looking for an air weight lately and that's all I could think while looking at the pictures!
Good info/write up!

 

[hrearden]

No, it becomes a lock model with the lock removed. Removing the lock doesn't remove the hole, and while there are little button things that you can put it in, it will never look as clean and as aesthetically pleasing as a pre-lock S&W.

I think you misunderstand, bud. I said "one without" not "pre-lock". I forgot how I have to word posts on INGO like Im writing a periodical or something. Its impossible to turn a "locked" gun into a "pre-lock" but it will function as such, which was the point. Though something tells me you understood what I was saying already.

 

[actaeon277]

Just so you can see the outside of a gun that's been modified, here is my S&W Model 60, after the mod.

And the close up.

 

[actaeon277]

Oh, Geronimojoe did the job. I'd rather throw money at him to do it, then to do it myself, mess it up, and have to throw more money at him.

 

[geronimojoe85]

He literally did throw money at me too.

 

[ghitch75]

get this.....FS ----------------- "The PLUG"---------------------------

then it will look like these.....

 

[Hookeye]

I can almost tolerate the plug, but not the etched arrow.
Oh so close to getting that 329 PD...............

 

[SSGSAD]

Bump, just so anybody else interested, can see the pics .....

 

[cosermann]

... Problems with this lock are various, from the principal of the matter to reports of the mechanism engaging itself under heavy recoil. ...

There's even a well substantiated report of the lock engaging after being accidently knocked off the counter onto a hardwood floor. In this case the lock didn't break (as it has in other cases), but rather simply locked the gun with the flag stuck crossways in the slot jamming everything up.

 

[SERparacord]

Best way to fix them, is notify the makers that use them that you will not be purchasing their guns till they remove it.

 

[ghitch75]

Best way to fix them, is notify the makers that use them that you will not be purchasing their guns till they remove it.

it's a lawyer thing.....

 

[Maddog1]

Excellent thread. really appreciate the sharing of knowledge.

 

[Texas-M4]

Won't this void the warranty on my new 629?

 

[ghitch75]

Won't this void the warranty on my new 629?

if you have trouble just put the lock back in before you send it back....

 

[sbcman]

if you have trouble just put the lock back in before you send it back....

Good advice, but be warned "putting the lock back in" is a whole lot easier said than done

 

[SERparacord]

it's a lawyer thing.....

It's a consumer thing, you buy it, they won't change it.

 

[bwframe]

It's a consumer thing, you buy it, they won't change it.

Who is S&W's actual competition in the revolver market?
Of course, we know there are others, but...




On a side note, does anyone actually have first hand knowledge of the lock engaging itself? Other than the scandium .44mag, as reported by Micheal Bane?

 

[SERparacord]

Who is S&W's actual competition in the revolver market?
Of course, we know there are others, but...

Ruger loves the Hillary Hole, on S&W's.

 

[bwframe]

Ruger loves the Hillary Hole, on S&W's.

Apparently not so much that S&W has felt the need to remove it.

 

[actaeon277]

Who is S&W's actual competition in the revolver market?
Of course, we know there are others, but...



On a side note, does anyone actually have first hand knowledge of the lock engaging itself? Other than the scandium .44mag, as reported by Micheal Bane?

I have first hand knowledge.
It happened to a guy next to me at Winamac.