The Net Neutrality Thread

[BugI02]

That’s not even a fair analogy. If there was competition I would not have a problem with Comcast throttling a competing service. But because they are allowed a monopoly over entire regions, that requires some different rules.

I thought what we were talking about was much more narrowly focused, the case where a business structures their marketing to maximize the competitiveness of a service they already offer, rather than the much wider concern about whether effective competition exists in the ISP marketplace

Good luck pursuing some kind of United States v AT&T when there are multiple ISPs and not a monolithic target

 

[printcraft]

In other news......

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/12/19/comcast-cox-frontier-net-neutrality/

 

[cordex]

In other news......

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/12/19/comcast-cox-frontier-net-neutrality/

I didn’t know that net neutrality (or lack thereof) had anything to do with basic internet access pricing.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

33 year old California man has been arrested on charges of threatening to kill the family of FFC Chairman Ajit Pai.

That's it? Just him?

Pretty sure Reddit was full of users wanting him and his family dead. Encouraged, even.

 

[KLB]

How many of the idiots were stupid enough to send the threats directly to the guy though?

 

[HoughMade]

How many of the idiots were stupid enough to send the threats directly to the guy though?

They e-mailed them over the internet that has not gone up in price or been throttled any more than it ever had been.

 

[KLB]

They e-mailed them over the internet that has not gone up in price or been throttled any more than it ever had been.

Blasphemer!

 

[actaeon277]

Still waiting for the end of the world that was predicted. Did I miss it?

 

[Phase2]

Still waiting for the end of the world that was predicted. Did I miss it?

US Internet Speed Has Gone From 12th To 6th Fastest Since End Of Net Neutrality | The Daily Caller

 

[HoughMade]

US Internet Speed Has Gone From 12th To 6th Fastest Since End Of Net Neutrality | The Daily Caller

Allowing more of a free market improves service. I'm pretty sure no one saw this coming.

 

[actaeon277]

Allowing more of a free market improves service. I'm pretty sure no one saw this coming.

I'm shocked.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[Cameramonkey]

Well, that’s actually An apples to oranges comparison.

NN concern wasn’t about raw speeds to the consumer by the ISPs. It was about content providers like Netflix being harmed by the carriers by throttling their traffic to the benefit of the carriers’ competing services.

This is headline is like saying “you were afraid that gun violence would increase if a law was passed. Well the law passed and more guns were sold.” It wasn’t about sales it was about murders. In both cases, the quoted outcome wasnt a concern of the original problem (NN/speed, murders/sales.)

 

[BugI02]

If the service provided by the ISP is competitive in all respects (content, pricing etc) and you are still allowed to choose Netflix but Netflix has to pay to play and not just free ride on the system, I fail to see how you are harmed

If the level playing field price for equal products settles out higher, consider yourself lucky the free ride lasted as long as it did. Netflix didn't build anything, they're a parasite

 

[Alamo]

33 year old California man has been arrested on charges of threatening to kill the family of FFC Chairman Ajit Pai.

That's it? Just him?

Pretty sure Reddit was full of users wanting him and his family dead. Encouraged, even.

Man who threatened to kill Ajit Pai’s children pleads guilty, faces prison

"'I will find your children and kill them,' man wrote after net neutrality repeal."

"faces up to 10 years in prison when he is sentenced Dec. 7"

"Man's attorney asked the court to release him pending sentencing, saying he 'is not a danger or a flight risk.'"

To which the gummint replied:

"Yet, threatening to murder the children of a federal official for purposes of intimidation, interference, and retaliation is a crime of violence for which detention pending sentencing is mandatory unless exceptional reasons for release are established by clear and convincing evidence."

 

[HoughMade]

Man who threatened to kill Ajit Pai’s children pleads guilty, faces prison

"'I will find your children and kill them,' man wrote after net neutrality repeal."

"faces up to 10 years in prison when he is sentenced Dec. 7"

"Man's attorney asked the court to release him pending sentencing, saying he 'is not a danger or a flight risk.'"

To which the gummint replied:

"Yet, threatening to murder the children of a federal official for purposes of intimidation, interference, and retaliation is a crime of violence for which detention pending sentencing is mandatory unless exceptional reasons for release are established by clear and convincing evidence."

Yeah but he was just trying to keep the internet from being destroyed. We didn't listen to him and NOW look what's happened.

 

[HoughMade]

[video=youtube;aiZ8xwwycXA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZ8xwwycXA[/video]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

SCOTUS denies petitions for review in net neutrality cases. Roberts & Kavanaugh recused.

 

[BugI02]

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[DoggyDaddy]

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That's kinda the way I felt at 00:01 on January 1st 2000. I was a Cobol programmer at the time.