The Net Neutrality Thread

[evsnova74]

Yeah, I just checked what the republicans said and went opposite. There's no chance that I looked at the issue and came to a different opinion than some others, even withing the libertarian community. I am actually on the same side as most conservatives and republicans on this issue. At least according to the polls.

Conservatives Like Net Neutrality, Poll Shows
http://www.udel.edu/cpc/research/fall2014/UD-CPC-NatAgenda2014PR_2014NetNeutrality.pdf

I was kidding about that part, the main point is that you definitely didn't just check with the libertarians when you decided which side to take on this issue as jamil alluded to some here doing. I've never seen anyone on libertarian pages say what you do here, not without getting screen capped by SSS or SIOTD anyway. And I'm not saying you're a statist, just that those pages would.

 

[mrjarrell]

Well, they've published the full manuscript of the NN regs. Haven't made my way through them all yet, but I haven't seen anything egregiously standing out. So far it seems to be just what they said it was going to be.

Title II, net neutrality 'Open Internet' FCC order published in full | Electronista

Full FCC Title II, net neutrality proposal

 

[Bunnykid68]

FCC aims to subsidize internet service for the poor now

FCC Aims to Subsidize Internet Service for the Poor - NationalJournal.com

 

[pudly]

No, tax money will be used to subsidize internet service for the poor.

 

[mrjarrell]

Tax money going to expand internet access to underserved communities has been going on for over 10 years or so. This is just another expansion of it. The government gave out billions to the ISPs and got virtually nothing for the "investment". The ISP got rich and not enough people got access to internet to justify it. Just a continuation of the giveaways.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

FCC aims to subsidize internet service for the poor now

FCC Aims to Subsidize Internet Service for the Poor - NationalJournal.com

Man I wish this help subsidize fiber optiic installation so that the poor people on my road could get high speed internet. I'd be on that like a duck on a June-bug...afterall, since they'd already be doing it anyway, I might as well take advantage of it. Amiright?

 

[AA&E]

This proposal is largely about protections for consumers. The internet doesn't belong to the ISP companies. It belongs to us as it was developed with tax payer dollars. The GOP is on the wrong side of this matter. Follow the trail of campaign contributions from major ISP's to republican politicians and ask yourself their motivations. I haven't voted for a democrat for a long damn time. I understand how Washington works and I am as disgusted as any of you by it. Bottomline, they (GOP) are wrong and have purposely mislead the American public on the intent of Net Neutrality.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

The subsidies will go to the companies who support the correct politicians.

 

[mrjarrell]

The subsidies will go to the companies who support the correct politicians.

That's all the big names in internet service. They've been giving out millions, for years, to get their way. This is just another payday for them. They've already raked in a few billion already and done nothing they were supposed to do for it. This won't be any different.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

The politicians on the receiving end don't care if they do anything or not. As long as the .gov money they receive gets properly laundered and returned to their campaign funds, they don't give a rat's behind.

 

[mrjarrell]

Now that the final report has been published the FCC has a page up to address the questions that many people cited for being against it. The answers are annotated, so you can check their answer against the final report itself.

FCC Open Internet Order - Separating Fact From Fiction | FCC.gov

 

[ArcadiaGP]

There's a hearing going on right now.

The Fiscal Costs of the President?s Executive Actions on Immigration - Committee on Oversight & Government Reform

FCC: Process and Transparency - Committee on Oversight & Government Reform

Rep. Jim Jordan grills FCC Chair Tom Wheeler on coordination with the White House on Net Neutrality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49cRsNEMX-0

And Jason Chaffetz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2eMWIys4jQ

 

[buckwacker]

Hmmmmmm.
Feds acknowledge power to act on Web rates | TheHill

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Net Neutrality Lawsuit: TWC to be slapped with net neutrality lawsuit | BGR

Edit: Perhaps not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology..._warner_cable_is_about_to_be_sued_for/cs9l0rk

 

[ArcadiaGP]

AT&T just got hit with a $100 million fine after slowing down its ?unlimited? data - The Washington Post

 

[mrjarrell]

AT&T just got hit with a $100 million fine after slowing down its ?unlimited? data - The Washington Post

If a business says it's data is unlimited then that's what it should mean. AT&T got caught committing fraud. They deserve to be penalised for it, and I'm an AT&T customer. Fraud is fraud.

 

[KLB]

If a business says it's data is unlimited then that's what it should mean. AT&T got caught committing fraud. They deserve to be penalised for it, and I'm an AT&T customer. Fraud is fraud.

I'm not sure I agree with you. They never limited how much someone could use, just how fast it was.

Did they tell people that their speed would be reduced after a set amount of data was used? If they did as they say they did, then this is silly. If they hid it from people, maybe there is merit to the claaim.

 

[kiddchaos]

Unfortunately at least some form of monitoring, either public or private, must be done.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'm not sure I agree with you. They never limited how much someone could use, just how fast it was.

Did they tell people that their speed would be reduced after a set amount of data was used? If they did as they say they did, then this is silly. If they hid it from people, maybe there is merit to the claaim.

Avoid reduced speeds with unlimited data plans - AT&T Wireless

Expand the "reduced speeds" section.

Reducing data speed (data throughput) and network management are common practices in the wireless industry. How we are managing the network only affects a small minority of the heaviest smartphone data users still on unlimited data plans - more than 97 percent of our smartphone customers are not impacted by this.

I've still got my grandfathered unlimited plan

 

[KLB]

Avoid reduced speeds with unlimited data plans - AT&T Wireless

Expand the "reduced speeds" section.



I've still got my grandfathered unlimited plan

Looks plain enough to me.