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  • Farmerjon

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    My first night riding with an older officer, he asked me if my gun was loaded. I said, "yes, why?" To which he replied, years ago he had a newby riding with him and he hadn't loaded his gun (mine back then was my 4" S&W 686). So this officer and newby went to get a guy from a house trailer, officer sends newby to back door with instructions, "don't let him get past you". Officer knocks on front door, seconds later hears a shot from back of trailer, (his words) "I run around the trailer and there is newby with smoking gun, perp laying on ground flat out, bloody, bloody face". Yep, newby fires a warning shot into the air, perp looks back and flat out running runs right into a tree!! Face first! So he gauged his newbys by their gun's condition the first night. I know, has nothing to do with this stupid senseless shooting of an innocent child. Just reminded me of it somehow and felt chatty.
     

    Thor

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    Defend my family, home and land? Yes. Go running down the street shooting at random dudes running away? No. Talk about a bad decision day...how would any of that make sense.
     

    NHT3

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    An unfortunate graphic example of WHY you should know the law and your own abilities. Most people with loaded guns have very little knowledge of either.
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    bwframe

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    Might be worth running through some FOF scenarios?

    I'd had a fair amount of self defense classes, before a pretty slick FOF scenario that had me amped up and shooting a bad guy going out the door. Worse yet, I shot an innocent bystander (camera man) that I had no idea was there. :n00b:

    I knew better, but still...
     

    VUPDblue

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    Might be kinda hard to recreate this in FOF. In this case the bullet went into an occupied house and struck someone inside. FOF munitions don't traverse structures or walls. I suppose the concept could be made somehow, but this particular one was all kinds of unlucky.
     

    churchmouse

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    Might be kinda hard to recreate this in FOF. In this case the bullet went into an occupied house and struck someone inside. FOF munitions don't traverse structures or walls. I suppose the concept could be made somehow, but this particular one was all kinds of unlucky.

    And sadly avoidable.
     

    Redlinetoys

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    Read about this today. Scary story. I have also have had similar concerns when viewing some of these police videos where an officer is shooting at a runaway car or perp. Seems like a pretty good potential for a stray bullet damaging someone or something in some of those videos as well. Regardless, poor choice on this persons part...
     

    Ark

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    They couldn't figure out whether one of the three people arrested was the shooter?

    I would hope so given, you know, he put a bullet in an 11-year-old girl while trying to kill a nonthreatening, unarmed person who was running away. :xmad:
     

    Thor

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    What caliber was it? I bet it was a .45, a terrible round for self defense due to over penetration like happened here :popcorn:

    If you are in a self defense situation that requires you to employ a firearm in self defense it is combat. In combat penetration and damage are required to kill your enemy before they kill you. .45 is a great round for self defense.

    The situation referenced is not self defense. The various laws governing the action and rules of gun safety were ignored. If an idiot kills you with a .30-30 or Wetherby .460mag is it the bullets fault?
     

    HoughMade

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    This is what the Dems are afraid of. Too many people with guns that have no knowledge of the law and gun handling.

    I would say that deep down inside many Dems are afraid of people who DO know the law and gun handling.

    Oh, and I kinda miss the INGO where we defended people shooting at fleeing criminals...or do we only defend that when no innocents are hit?
     
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