Most of my deer and 1 cow elk fell to a TC "New Englander" in 50 cal. back in the '90. I still have it, but rarely muzzle loader hunt anymore since I have private land to hunt, and always get plenty of deer before cold weather sets in. I once loved muzzle loaders. Just got tired of mandatory cleaning the same day it was shot, and bending over the bathtub to do it.