US Soliders charged w/ murdering civilians and collecting fingers

[Prometheus]

US Soldiers charged w/ murdering civilians and collecting fingers

US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies' | World news | The Guardian

U.S. soldiers charged with murdering civilians, collecting their fingers in Afghanistan



They've said Afghanistan is the new Vietnam, are fingers the new ears?

I hope this isn't true.

 

[mrjarrell]

If it is true, the perpetrators need to be punished accordingly for the murders. I wouldn't even preclude turning them over to the Afghani courts, since the crimes were committed there. We cannot afford to let this one slip by or make any mistakes. There have already been too many civilian casualties in both theatres and this rises levels above "collateral damage".

 

[G_Stines]

Its sad to say but some of our soldiers feel that it gives them an excuse to whatever they want whenever they want. If it's true, I hope they get swift and appropriate justice. Bad apples ruin the bunch. I hope this just media. I really do.

 

[PatriotPride]

Let's wait for the facts before condemning our soldiers. I wouldn't trust much of anything the media spews out either.

 

[spearheadersarge]

This doesn't suprise me at all. The services had been desperate to fill slots when things were going badly earlier in the wars and lowered the recruit standards accordingly. It shouldn't shock people when the services put felons and those psychologically challenged in uniform. Additionally, there seems to be a disconnect in the supervision of soldiers that allows this to happen. In most of the scenarios in Iraq and Afghanistan, the squad leaders, e-6's of various seasoning and education levels, are in charge of patrols. There is little oversite as to what happens when they are outside the wire. This is the same thing that happened with the murder and rape of the Iraqi family and their daughter in Baghdad by the 101st soldiers. Seving in the military should be a priveledge, they need to make the entry standards higher to weed out the whackos. Also they need to cut the nuts off of these retards so no one else even thinks about doing this again!

 

[Redemption]

I think ears are better. Why change a classic?

 

[DragonGunner]

I'm waiting for more facts....not from the media, but what the military directly says about all this. If its true we will be seeing court martials....remember the Navy Seals that were accused falsley....come to think of it..it was some idiot General that brought those charges against them....so guess I won't know who to believe on this one.

 

[E5RANGER375]

not suprising. I had a friend in the military that assisted customs and they found body parts (war trophies) lol. weird

it is the military. anyone whos ever been in the military knows theres some real phsycos in it. its sad but true. im not even gonna pretend.

if only people knew the tactics we were using in afghanistan when I was over there. and yes it was authorized. the media would have a freakin field day. But I dont kiss and tell.

no one knows how they will react to killing another human until you do it. some people go nuts. to this soldier he was probly in an altered state of reality and thought what he did was perfectly normal. war will change you forever, i dont care what your MOS is.
I havent even read the story nor do i care to, so if some of my comments seem off thats why. maybe the guy is just a loon, or maybe he couldnt take it no more. i dont know, but i do know that you will see the government parade him around infront of all the cameras and make a spectical of this so it will take attention off bigger things and they will lock this guy up forever.

 

[gunowner930]

If it is true, the perpetrators need to be punished accordingly for the murders. I wouldn't even preclude turning them over to the Afghani courts, since the crimes were committed there. We cannot afford to let this one slip by or make any mistakes. There have already been too many civilian casualties in both theatres and this rises levels above "collateral damage".

Bad idea. These soldiers aren't guilty yet, nothing has been proven. These soldiers fall under the UCMJ not sharia law. Do you actually think the Afghans would give them a fiar trial or would they be made an example of?

 

[caddywhompus]

war will change you forever, i dont care what your MOS is.

True statement.

I'm also waiting on all the facts, but I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't all true AND there were more involved. I hope not.

 

[kedie]

remember the Navy Seals that were accused falsley

Or the Marines at Haditha that John Murtha hung out to dry.

it is the military. anyone whos ever been in the military knows theres some real phsycos in it. its sad but true. im not even gonna pretend.

Very true. I knew a couple of guys when I was in that were total kooks. They just gave off that vibe of "I'm going to climb a water tower someday".

 

[Prometheus]

I'm waiting for more facts....not from the media, but what the military directly says about all this. *snip*come to think of it..it was some idiot General that brought those charges against them....so guess I won't know who to believe on this one.

Most conservatives believe anything the pentagon says. Those conservatives are... idiots. To put it kindly.

We all agree the obama administration lies and sucks... the generals they parade in front of us are political and serve at the whim of the President (technically all servicemen do, but lets not nitpick).

Why do people give any more credibility to an obama spokesman in uniform vs one in a suit and tie?

THAT is why we see upper level military officals throwing the guys on the front line under the bus. They are the same ilk as those of whom they actually serve.

 

[ATM]

Fingers are one thing, but posing for photographs with the bodies...

well, now you've stolen their soul and that is very bad karma.


Seriously, I hope it's not true and await the investigation findings.

If it is... burn 'em.

 

[public servant]

I pray these reports aren't true. But if it is I hope they are punished to the fullest extent of the law. No more and certainly no less.

Because it is a media report...I'll leave their guilt or innocence to a military court.

 

[UncleMike]

I pray these reports aren't true. But if it is I hope they are punished to the fullest extent of the law. No more and certainly no less.

Because it is a media report...I'll leave their guilt or innocence to a military court.

This!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mike

 

[serpicostraight]

i read an article earlier on this and it mentioned several times that there was no proof of anything actually happening yet. just people being accused so im waiting to see if there is even any truth to it at all.

 

[ATF Consumer]

I suppose if we hold military tribunals for those bringing terror upon us on our soil, then same should be afforded to our troops in Afgan's military court. What is justice for them here should be justice for us over there.

 

[Prometheus]

I suppose if we hold military tribunals for those bringing terror upon us on our soil, then same should be afforded to our troops in Afgan's military court. What is justice for them here should be justice for us over there.

What we have now is a hold over foul-up by George W.

We aren't actually at war. So the right place for the alleged murders trial would actually be in the hands of the judicial system of the country it occurred in because these alleged murders happened off base.

Obviously, in a country like Afghanistan, their judicial system isn't a good idea... then again, considering the meddling of the bush and obama administrations in previous military trials, why do we think it's going to be any better?

This is a totally fubar'ed situation.

 

[gunowner930]

I suppose if we hold military tribunals for those bringing terror upon us on our soil, then same should be afforded to our troops in Afgan's military court. What is justice for them here should be justice for us over there.

would you want to be tried in an Afghan court under sharia law?

 

[Cemetery-man]

Fingers are one thing, but posing for photographs with the bodies.../QUOTE]

That's the whole problem. Everyone knows it's videotaping beheadings that's the internationally accepted form of execution anymore. Anything else won't be tolerated!