CMMG belongs on the list with the other hum drum companies, add Daniel Defense to the "quality" companies.
So Spike is one to look at? What about Double Star ? Any better or worse than DPMS?
CMMG belongs on the list with the other hum drum companies, add Daniel Defense to the "quality" companies.
Please define what you mean by long range? Also, is this going to be used to shoot targets at a longer range, or varmint (coyotes, etc.)? This will make a world of difference in the type of AR configurations people will suggest. If absolute accuracy is what you are looking to achieve, then you may want to consider a stainless steel bull barrel, however, this will increase the weight and limit its use in other situations. Decide on the purpose of the rifle and go from there.
As always, "buy once, cry once." It is better to delay gratification and get what you want then to be forever wishing you had done it right the first time.
While I would like to shoot at longer ranges, I don't want a bull barrel at this time due to added weight. I'll primarily use it for target and varmints.
Read, study, and read some more. Damned good advice. But your wish to jump into the AR world wanting a .308 is confusing to me. .308 AR's are big and expensive. If you are on a budget (and it sounds like you are), then why the 308? Unless you are hunting dear, or Elk, none of which you can do in Indiana, why the bigger caliber? Consider the .223/556, cheaper ammo, etc...,Read, study, read some more. Decide what you want. Don't buy one because it is cheaper and then spend money on cheap accessories just so it is cool looking. Spend the money for something better, learn how to shoot it, and then worry about any accessories.
look at the sun devil ar i just bought one and its great
very acurate no problems out of it
Thanks for all of the comments. I have been reading and researching. I'm getting a good idea of what I want and need. Hopefully I will have an M4 in my very near future.
Is a chrome lined barrel something that's worth the money? I talked to a local guy and he said it was a waste of money but the forums say to get it.
I bought a stripped lower for $89 and a Del-Ton 20" basic rifle kit on Black Friday and put together an AR-15 for my daughter for a little over $500. It looks very nice and is very tight. No chrome for me as I do not plan to have it in extenuating environments.
On the other hand, I have a DPMS LR308 AP4 with an Leupold VX-3 scope and other extras that I bought used for around $1500 and it is very accurate and nice to shoot. They are much heavier than the AR-15.
I checked out a 308 DPMS. Those are very nice but heavier than I want and little more than I can spend right now.
A friend of mine told me to look at Del-Ton and I like what I read and just handled one and a local shop and liked it. Where did not get you Del-Ton on Black Friday? I would love to build one in the $500 range.
Just wait till Black Friday (25th November this year) and check their website. I ordered directly from Del ton Rifle Kits & Del ton AR 15 Rifles | Gun Supplies & Gun Accessories from Del-ton, Inc.. They had something like 15% off last year.
I got picked up two spikes tactical stripped lowers in a group buy one year for about $89 apiece but you can find some brands for around $100. You will pay more than $500 but less than $600 for a nice AR that way.