What does this IDNR sign mean?

[phylodog]

The program has been around since the 1920s (IIRC) to preserve forests and they encourage that by reduced taxes. Not sure how 1.7 acres is much of a "forest", or how the taxes on that little bit of undeveloped land would be much.

It's close to $700/yr for a 1.7 acre triangle sitting between a road, an ag field and a creek. It's F'n ridiculous.

 

[singlestacksig]

It makes no change that will effect anyone other than the land owners.. It's still private property, they just have agreed to manage it based on a plan for timber or wildlife.. It counts as Farmland for hunting.. every year i hear stories of someone who knows someone who claims they have a problem with the program, but no one can ever give a specific case of the state restricting or requiring anything.. For 10+ years my only requirement from the state forester was to "Reduce deer numbers"

 

[Mgderf]

It's close to $700/yr for a 1.7 acre triangle sitting between a road, an ag field and a creek. It's F'n ridiculous.

If it's unimproved, that is f'n ridiculous.

 

[firecadet613]

It's close to $700/yr for a 1.7 acre triangle sitting between a road, an ag field and a creek. It's F'n ridiculous.

That's INSANE.

 

[phylodog]

That's INSANE.

Which is why I was hoping to enroll it. I've no doubt that property taxes will eventually force me from what was supposed to be the last home I bought.

 

[Creedmoor]

If it's unimproved, that is f'n ridiculous.

There are programs in Maryland that cover unbuildable tidal swampland, marsh and tillable farmland and other unusable land. Most programs are for 100 years, one can easily be paid from a few thousand an acre and up to put land in these Preservation Programs that you couldn't get a permit to build on if you tried.
Its just another program for the land owners of unbuildable land to fleece the taxpayer. The State hooks you up.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Which is why I was hoping to enroll it. I've no doubt that property taxes will eventually force me from what was supposed to be the last home I bought.

I wonder if its worth an hour of a tax/real estate attorney's time for a sit down?

 

[yetti462]

It's close to $700/yr for a 1.7 acre triangle sitting between a road, an ag field and a creek. It's F'n ridiculous.

Let it go at a tax sale if it's separate from your house.

 

[phylodog]

Let it go at a tax sale if it's separate from your house.

I paid a hefty chunk of change for it, I don't intend to do that. I wanted access to the creek that runs through it and we enjoy it regularly.

 

[Ingomike]

It's close to $700/yr for a 1.7 acre triangle sitting between a road, an ag field and a creek. It's F'n ridiculous.

What can you do to put ag on it and get ag taxes which are 2% vs the 3% I suspect you are paying.

 

[Creedmoor]

I paid a hefty chunk of change for it, I don't intend to do that. I wanted access to the creek that runs through it and we enjoy it regularly.

I would look into having a certified tree farm with that 1.7 acres.

https://www.treefarmsystem.org/about-indiana-tree-farm-program

I would put 50-75 English Walnuts on it, or as many as I could back on it, at 16 through 20' apart.

 

[firecadet613]

Everything I've seen is 10+ acres.

I'd reach out to the assessor regardless. On vacant land, those taxes are nuts.

 

[phylodog]

What can you do to put ag on it and get ag taxes which are 2% vs the 3% I suspect you are paying.

According the the person(s) the previous owner spoke to, nothing. I'll make an attempt one day once I find myself in the right mood.

 

[Creedmoor]

According the the person(s) the previous owner spoke to, nothing. I'll make an attempt one day once I find myself in the right mood.

I would also spend some time looking at local comparable property's and see what they are paying in taxes.
If your getting broken over go to the next available time that you can argue your tax bill with the county. Bring good pictures.

 

[two70]

How convenient.

It is designed and intended to be a conservation program not a property tax reduction program for properties too small to be of any conservation value. If anything it should probably be a lot more rigorous that it is.

 

[Leadeye]

It helps to have a good relationship with the local forester, they come out and visit here every year.

 

[Ingomike]

According the the person(s) the previous owner spoke to, nothing. I'll make an attempt one day once I find myself in the right mood.

I think you need to knuckle down and get this changed. If the info is correct at $700 a year they are taxing you as if the land is worth over $40,000 and acre. I’m betting you would take $68,000 in a heartbeat…

 

[phylodog]

I think you need to knuckle down and get this changed. If the info is correct at $700 a year they are taxing you as if the land is worth over $40,000 and acre. I’m betting you would take $68,000 in a heartbeat…

Unfortunately this is Hamilton Co where $40k/acre is a steal in some places. I'm hopeful that I'll find someone helpful when I go in and common sense will prevail. If I were confident I'd have gone in there already.

 

[Michigan Slim]

The neighbor to the property I hunt in Huntington County has 2.88 acres and he has signs up for Classified Forest. Can't be more than an acre of woods on his place.

 

[Ingomike]

Unfortunately this is Hamilton Co where $40k/acre is a steal in some places. I'm hopeful that I'll find someone helpful when I go in and common sense will prevail. If I were confident I'd have gone in there already.

Don’t think $40,000 is a steal in most of the rural parts of the county, though I did hear Becks paid near $20,000 an acre for a farm. The $40,000-$50,000 is commercial land I do not get the picture from your posts you are in commercial land.

Is that 1.7 acres its own parcel taxed separately?