What say ye... 1911 or not

[Thor]

Interesting that that one is marked Cal. 45 as both of mine are marked 11.25mm.

I just saw that you said it was British Contract...that would probably be why. It adds to the cool factor because those were made to be used by MI6 and commando's behind the lines. They were the most rare only making about 10k of them. Mine are both marked Policia Federal.

Nice addition to your collection.

 

[Thor]

Here is a link to an earlier discussion:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/330645-legend-argentine-pistols.html

But I would say it could hold a proud place as a 1911 inspired variant.

 

[JetGirl]

a 1911 inspired variant.

And there ya have it. 1911 inspired.

People that have non-1911 guns (and I'm not just talking about the OP...this is a very sweeping and general "people") might have a gun that looks similar, functions similarly, takes down almost the same, shoots great... but is *not* a 1911.
Don't tell me your Para LDA is one, don't tell me your Sig P938 is one, don't tell me your Solo is one, not even your 1905... Because they aren't. If saying you have a 1911 is important to you...buy a frackin' 1911. Don't hold up a completely different model and say "It is one, except for the blah blah blah".... No, it's not. If you want to get right down to it, even today's 1911s are Clones... that's right. I said it. You heard what you heard.

 

[Leadeye]

Nothing like old Colts.

 

[wtfd661]

And there ya have it. 1911 inspired.

People that have non-1911 guns (and I'm not just talking about the OP...this is a very sweeping and general "people") might have a gun that looks similar, functions similarly, takes down almost the same, shoots great... but is *not* a 1911.
Don't tell me your Para LDA is one, don't tell me your Sig P938 is one, don't tell me your Solo is one, not even your 1905... Because they aren't. If saying you have a 1911 is important to you...buy a frackin' 1911. Don't hold up a completely different model and say "It is one, except for the blah blah blah".... No, it's not. If you want to get right down to it, even today's 1911s are Clones... that's right. I said it. You heard what you heard.

This is one of the reasons that I have always been jonesing for a USGI original WWI 1911 or WWII 1911a1. To have a real 1911 that has true history to it would be awesome!!! It is at the very top of my must buy list, unfortunately its not back in the day when they could be had for a few bucks

 

[Thor]

Back when they were a few bucks I didn't have a few bucks...

 

[wtfd661]

Back when they were a few bucks I didn't have a few bucks...

Yep me too, that's why I am jonesing so bad now!

 

[actaeon277]

So would a 1911 that has an oversized safety be a 1911? The original didn't.

 

[glockednlocked]

I say close but nope. The real question is it the 1911's love child or just the product of a drunken night in Argentina? But none of that matters if you like it and it runs for you!

 

[Que]

Nope. No grip safety. It's 1911-*ish*...but that's it.

I was about to call you out! I was not allowed to call my LDA a 1911, so this cannot be one, either!

 

[1988-4551]

I say yes. American rifleman ran an article on them not too long ago

 

[Double T]

No. The trigger is a fulcrum and not straight back, and the lack of a grip safety. 1911ish is correct.

 

[JetGirl]

So would a 1911 that has an oversized safety be a 1911? The original didn't.

What does that have to do with a gun that has no grip safety being called a 1911? Apples/oranges

 

[hoostalbrian]

What does that have to do with a gun that has no grip safety being called a 1911? Apples/oranges

+1

 

[88E30M50]

I'd say no. If it were a Systema, then yes but the Ballistar Molina's are about as much 1911 as the Sig P238. I'm not knocking it by any means. It's a great gun and does have 1911 DNA in there, but the trigger is hinged as well as other things that make the lower a non-1911. The slide is pretty 1911 though. Nice gun. Just not a 1911 in my eyes but it makes a great addition to any collection of 1911s just because it rounds out the follow on designs somewhat.

 

[BE Mike]

Not a true 1911, but you should enjoy it for what it is. Use some good magazines and it ought to be a fun plinker. Indiucky has a pretty nice collection of these pistols.