What the Dems Know: Universal Voter Registration

[CulpeperMM]

What the Dems Know: Universal Voter Registration

Many are puzzled that Democrats persist in ramming unpopular and destructive legislation down our collective throats while seemingly unconcerned by their plummeting poll numbers. A widespread belief is that the Democrats are committing political suicide and will be swept from one or both houses of Congress with unprecedented electoral losses next November. But since Democrat politicians rarely do things that will not ultimately benefit themselves, this column asked two weeks ago: "what do they know that we don't?"
We may have found out. It's called universal voter registration. The Wall Street Journal's John Fund described the Democrat plan recently at a David Horowitz Freedom Center forum. Watch the video:Truth & Consequences - There is no Right and Left, only Right and Wrong: What the Dems Know: Universal Voter Registration

 

[haldir]

That would be the death of the Republic. The Dems have been experts at voter fraud for a long time (the dead in Chicago elected JFK). I guess they are going to kick it up a notch.

 

[CulpeperMM]

I guess they are going to kick it up a notch.

to eleven

on a serious note:

We need to be contacting our local representatives and state senators about Nullification of this if/when it passes. Indiana should be actively Nullifying unconstitutional federal legislation (in Indianapolis), as it comes to a vote in the US Congress. I have begun the conversation with my reps regarding National-Socialized Health Care and Cap -N- Trade. This will be another. Just because CONgress passes legislation and the Occupier of the Office of President signs it, it doesn't make it Law. Unconstitutional legislation is null upon introduction.

 

[lashicoN]

That's a terrible idea. If this passes how can we still claim we live in a "free" country? I don't fully understand their thinking though. Why do they assume everyone they forcefully register will vote Democratic party?

 

[CulpeperMM]

That's a terrible idea. If this passes how can we still claim we live in a "free" country? I don't fully understand their thinking though. Why do they assume everyone they forcefully register will vote Democratic party?

apparently

 

[haldir]

That's a terrible idea. If this passes how can we still claim we live in a "free" country? I don't fully understand their thinking though. Why do they assume everyone they forcefully register will vote Democratic party?

Oh don't worry about that. They don't need that person to vote, as long as they are registered, members of groups like Acorn will have someone vote for them.

 

[Garb]

Are the democrats so far removed from reality that they think they could honestly get away with this? I mean, if they don't, then people are going to stop voting for them. If they do, they're going to **** people off to the point that we're seeing in countries like Iran right now. Maybe that's what they want though.

 

[hornadylnl]

Are the democrats so far removed from reality that they think they could honestly get away with this? I mean, if they don't, then people are going to stop voting for them. If they do, they're going to **** people off to the point that we're seeing in countries like Iran right now. Maybe that's what they want though.

What's that? Football is on.

 

[jedi]

Are the democrats so far removed from reality that they think they could honestly get away with this? I mean, if they don't, then people are going to stop voting for them. If they do, they're going to **** people off to the point that we're seeing in countries like Iran right now. Maybe that's what they want though.

What's that? LOST the final season is about to start.
What's that? Gas prices are finally back to normal.
What's that? I just got my federal re-finance mortage approved which has lowered my payment.
What's that? I have to go shopping for all those post-holiday sale.

Ahh the sheep.

 

[kludge]

bread and circuses

 

[dross]

I watched this work when I was stationed in El Paso, TX. Huge voter registration drives in non-English speaking areas, then on election day, lots and lots of buses to take people to the polls. In El Paso, this was combined with the ability to vote straight ticked with one action. The Democrat ticket was always number 5, so leading up to the election, the slogan "Vote Cinco" was heard constantly, and seen on billboards around town.

Less than half the people vote. People on the lower income side of the equation vote in much lower numbers than those on the higher side. Right now, slightly more than half of the population doesn't pay any income taxes at all, with many of those receiving money from the government.

Do the math. With universal registration, you just have to get those people to the polls, or defraud the system with their registered names. The half of people who receive all the services of government, but pay for none, have no reason not to vote for the people promising them more services.

Combine this with the census hijinks sure to come, and we may be in grave trouble.

 

[lumpy39us]

I was reading this, or was it on TV, anyways...
This was attempted in the past and never made it to the floor, because it opens too many doors for voter fraud. Seems like they have the green light now.

 

[ocsdor]

Vote Schmote ! There is no actual voting now. The electronic voting machines have the outcome of the election already programmed in. This is all about having more groups of people registered so when one class of voters are trying to figure out how "their guy" didn't win, they can blame it on the other groups for voting for the opponent.

(i.e. what I heard in 1992 "Clinton won because of all those dumb college kids voted for him.")

 

[rambone]

I just found this article. It seems to say that this Universal Voter Registration could cut down the fraudulent votes as seen in the 2008 election. Any thoughts?

Specifically why is this good or bad?

FairVote - Universal Voter Registration


Universal Voter Registration
We need complete and accurate voter rolls, which is the international norm. Every citizen turning 18 and every person becoming a citizen should be automatically registered.

Complete and accurate voter rolls are essential to the integrity of the electoral process and the legitimacy of results. Yet, as evidenced by recent elections, voter rolls are littered with duplicate registrants and errors. Nearly a third of eligible American voters are not registered to vote and voter registration drives result in a surge of registrations close to an election that are difficult to process and that create unanticipated demands on polling places. As a result, millions of eligible voters are effectively shut out of the political process.

While no voter registration process is perfect, ours is riddled with flaws. The United States is one of only a few democracies in the world where the government does not take responsibility for registering voters. Instead, our government leaves the construction of voter rolls up to partisan and non-partisan voter registration organizations, political parties, election officials and active citizens. Sadly, this hands off approach invites voter registration fraud. It is not surprising that voter rolls are neither complete nor accurate.

In contrast, the international norm is an orderly process of automatic registration of every citizen who reaches voting age and of every person who becomes a citizen. Citizens are automatically placed on voter rolls upon reaching voting age and/or government officials actively work to register all citizens. For example, in Iraq's first democratic elections, election officials automatically transferred the names of Iraqis from ration lists to voter rolls.

Voter registration should be the mutual responsibility of citizens and their government. The government should not only facilitate registration; it should actively register adults who are eligible to vote as part of its responsibility to have accurate rolls. 100% voter registration should be the goal. Moreover, universal voter registration has the potential to bring together conservatives who are concerned about fraudulent voter registrations and liberals who are concerned about anemic political participation.

The most comprehensive way to move toward universal voter registration is to establish federal standards that states must follow to ensure all eligible voters are on their states' voter roll. These standards must also be twined with a fail safe to ensure citizens that are not on the rolls can register and vote on Election Day. The federal standards should also set a national uniform voter registration age of 16-years-old, where youth are systematically regisered to vote and automatically added to the voter rolls upon reaching votin age.

Even before we have a national standard, states can take immediate action. States like Florida and Hawaii have already set a uniform voter registration age of 16. Several states are also working toward automatic voter registration policies, where citizens filing state tax returns are systematically registered to vote. States can also tie Post Office Change of Address forms to the voter registration database and utilize existing state databases to move toward a system of universal voter registration.

However best achieved, we believe that such changes would register far more citizens in an orderly way, generate more understanding of the value of 100% registration and provide a means to systematically introduce young people to the importance of political participation. We see a natural complement to this proposal being a "voting curriculum" for high school students.

 

[MTC]

I speak fluent communese (American dialect).

FairVote - Universal Voter Registration


Universal Voter Registration
We need complete and accurate voter rolls, which is the international norm as in we should be more like [whatever socialist countries you like]. Every citizen turning 18 and every person becoming a citizen should be automatically registered. Wrong. That is each citizen's responsibility.

Complete and accurate voter rolls are essential to the integrity of the electoral process and the legitimacy of results. Yet, as evidenced by recent elections, voter rolls are littered with duplicate registrants and errors. Ask yourself why that is. Nearly a third of eligible American voters are not registered to vote and voter registration drives result in a surge of registrations close to an election that are difficult to process and that create unanticipated demands on polling places. As a result, millions of eligible voters are effectively shut out of the political process. That's their own fault. It is each citizen's civic duty to know and fulfill eligibility requirements.

While no voter registration process is perfect, ours is riddled with flaws. The United States is one of only a few democracies in the world where the government does not take responsibility for registering voters. You like that word 'democracy', don't you? The U.S. is (or was designed as) a Constitutional Republic Instead, our government leaves the construction of voter rolls up to partisan and non-partisan voter registration organizations, political parties, election officials and active citizens. Sadly, this hands off approach invites voter registration fraud. That's like saying banks invite bank robbery. It is not surprising that voter rolls are neither complete nor accurate.

In contrast, the international norm is an orderly process of automatic registration of every citizen who reaches voting age and of every person who becomes a citizen. Citizens are automatically placed on voter rolls upon reaching voting age and/or government officials actively work to register all citizens(in more ways than one). For example, in Iraq's first democratic elections, election officials automatically transferred the names of Iraqis from ration lists to voter rolls. Hmmm

Voter registration should be the [STRIKE]mutual[/STRIKE] responsibility of citizens [STRIKE]and their government[/STRIKE]. The government should not only facilitate registration; it should actively register adults who are eligible to vote as part of its responsibility to have accurate rolls. Wrong. It's not the government's responsibility to actively register voters. 100% voter registration should be the goal. Moreover, universal there's that word again voter registration has the potential to bring together conservatives who are concerned about fraudulent voter registrations and liberals who are concerned about anemic political participation. Regular Americans are concerned because you socialist radicals have already engaged in voting fraud.

The most comprehensive way to move toward universal voter registration is to establish federal standards that states must follow to ensure all eligible voters are on their states' voter roll. These standards must also be twined with a fail safe to ensure citizens that are not on the rolls can register and vote on Election Day.Wrong! The federal standards should also set a national uniform voter registration age of 16-years-old?!!, where youth are systematically regisered to vote and automatically added to the voter rolls upon reaching votin age. So it wasn't enough that you and your ilk successfully lobbied to lower the voting age to 18. Now you want it lowered to 16.

Even before we have a national standard, states can take immediate action. States like Florida and Hawaii have already set a uniform voter registration age of 16. Several states are also working toward automatic voter registration policies, where citizens filing state tax returns are systematically registered to vote. States can also tie Post Office Change of Address forms to the voter registration database and utilize existing state databases to move toward a system of universal voter registration. Like "universal health care".

However best achieved, we believe that such changes would register far more [STRIKE]citizens[/strike] democrats in an orderly way, generate more understanding of the value of 100% registration and provide a means to systematically introduce young people to the importance of political participation.After their political indoctrination, no doubt. We see a natural complement to this proposal being a "voting curriculum" for high school students.Yeah, I'll bet you do.

From the 'about' section of that site:

FairVote and its Mission
FairVote acts to transform our elections to achieve universal access to participation, a full spectrum of meaningful ballot choices and majority rule unconstitutional in a Constitutional Republic with fair representation for all thrown in to make it sound good. As a catalyst for change, we build support for innovative strategies to win a constitutionally protected right to vote already provided for in The Constitution, universal voter registration there's that word again, a national popular vote for president unconstitutional per The Constitution, instant runoff voting and proportional representation. already provided for

As a reform catalyst, FairVote develops and promotes practical strategies to improve elections at the local, state and national levels. Our vision of an equally secure, meaningful and effective vote for all Americans is founded on the principles articulated in the Declaration of Independence, Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address and Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech: we are created equal, government is of, by and for the people and it is time to make real the promise of democracy. Wrong. This country was founded as a Constitutional Republic.

Operating for many years as the Center for Voting and Democracy, FairVote was founded in 1992. It has a large volunteer network across the nation, with closely allied groups in states like California, Minnesota, North Carolina and Rhode Island.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Why should there be universal voter registration?

It matters not who casts the votes. It matters only who counts them.

 

[dross]

1. Why do we want people voting who can't be bothered to register.
2. There are already enough people voting who know next to nothing about the issues.
3. When everyone is registered, it makes it much easier to scam the system, ala Chicago politics and ACORN.

 

[woodchuck4950]

Great Post MTC ... Glenn Beck couldn't have said it better!

Voting is a privilege, not a right.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

I know little about politics but it seems to me that if this thing is passed and the elections are stolen , then it would bring about consequences the likes of which we aren't allowed to discuss here .

Am I wrong ?

 

[JCA1776]

One of the key points made by John Fund was the fact that the state voter laws would be overridden by federal mandate. This would move us one step closer to doing away with the electoral college.

We are the United STATES of America, not the United PEOPLE of America. Moving away from the electoral college system and toward a pure popular vote system would centralize the power in the highly populated states and the big cities. The smaller, less populated states won't really matter anymore.

This system would be contrary to the the one set up by the framers of the Constitution. These men came up with an ingenious compromise that gave equal power to all states in the Senate, while allowing for the differences in population in the House of Representatives.

It is critical to maintain our respective State identities, and this Universal Voter Registration bill would erode it even more than it is now.