Something about OC being Dangerous...What was his education again?
Something about OC being Dangerous...What was his education again?
Something about OC being Dangerous...
I think that scenario is hilarious. I would do that to somebody just to see the look on their face. If you are disarmed like this, why do you think you can successfully retaliate in any way? You been beat, you want to be beat some more?
Something about OC being Dangerous...
I guess I should have billed his Department for training him in how to defend oneself and retain your weapon while OC'ing...Nobody knows better than a cop how dangerous OC is. They are forced to OC every working day and guys spend their days in prison learning how to disarm them. Cops don't have the luxury to spend all day learning how to not be disarmed. It is maybe practiced once every couple of years.
I never train....How many of you practice how to fend off a disarm attempt by a determined, trained attacker?
...I think that scenario is hilarious. I would do that to somebody just to see the look on their face. If you are disarmed like this, why do you think you can successfully retaliate in any way?...
One each...
The other was a Sheriff Deputy here in the State, that thought he would educate me about the Dangers of OC...
On Duty. I called 911 and asked for and Ambulance at my location.On or off duty and how did that work out?
I need to grab some popcorn, brb.
Before you attempt it, understand that you are gambling your life (or just a trip to the emergency room, if you're lucky) on the carrier not reacting explosively and allowing you to complete the task.
This is why gun grabs don't happen frequently - what is this guy going to do when I first grab it?
...what happens if I fail?
...what happens next if I'm successful?
People who attempt this are either dangerously arrogant and haven't considered the ass whooping or gunshots they're likely to receive
or deranged lunatics with absolutely nothing to lose.
Both deserve what they get.
Is the part in bold some inside information that you can't give out any specifics on?The scenario laid out by the OP was a successful disarm. Not an attempt.
And yes, I have disarmed folks and managed the arrest so that his possible "explosive reaction" could not happen. Some had "nothing to lose".
Not like the OP's scenario though. I still think it is funny that he could be disarmed like he described.
Please understand that lots of guys train to disarm cops so that they can kill them. They can, and have, disarmed cops and killed them with their own gun. Disarming an untrained OC'er is easy to anyone who spends years training how to do it.
Gun grabs do happen frequently. Most cops are killed with their own guns. This has always been true.
On Duty. I called 911 and asked for and Ambulance at my location.
Then I called the Sheriff and we talked about what had happened and what the CCTV would show as well for where it happened...
Good to know Persons once in awhile.
Is the part in bold some inside information that you can't give out any specifics on?
Is this training conducted and deployed here in the states or south of the border?
What was the deputy with broken fingers doing while you were on the phone?
The fact that you aren't dead or ****ting in a bag right now is very surprising to me.
...I still think it is funny that he could be disarmed like he described.
...Gun grabs do happen frequently. Most cops are killed with their own guns. This has always been true.
Unfortunately, I've heard of it happening to several people. Had it not happened to me onece I might not believe some officers are that dumb. I've experienced bad LEO situations a couple times and I certainly think the majority of them could use some more training in these matters.
ATM. I have to say I don't understand your point. I respect your opinion, I just don't understand your point.
Have I offended you in some way with my levity regarding the OP's disarming and his question about what he should do next?
I think this could also apply to anyone getting attacked at any time for any reason. It's no secret that there are violent criminals out there.The likelyhood of any of us retaining our magic wand is not very good when faced with someone like this...I doubt you or I could retain our firearm if one of these guys wacked us in the head with a baseball bat first. And they walk among us. Believe me, they do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq_wqRCTkH4
Gun grabs do happen frequently. Most cops are killed with their own guns. This has always been true.