Are you stating that most gunshot LEO fatalities are done with their own firearms, or most LEO fatalities (for whatever reason) are done with their own firearms?
To the OP, what type of retention holster were you wearing?
It seems to me there is a lot of could have, would have, should have's going on with this post. I am not sure why anyone would do what you said was done. However it does make me question who really needs the training. After all, according to your OP, you were the one disarmed. IMO it is totally unacceptable to be so unaware that someone/anyone can just snatch your weapon. Good thing for you the person was a LEO.
Note to self:
Take a weapons retention class.
Take a force on force class.
Rewatch the following movies:
Jean Claude VanDamme's kickboxing movies.
Anything Chuck Norris.
Anything Bruce Lee.
Everyone? I hope. I do. I would like to think everyone who OCs carries with a retention holster. Blackhawk Serpa isn't the only one. There's also Safariland (they have several retention lines, including the ALS and SLS).I'm curious as to who accuatlly carries with a retention holster?
I usually use a Yaqui Slide as a Holster. Not exactly what I would consider a retention holster...I'm curious as to who actually carries with a retention holster?
I was never disarmed I stated a LEO came up behind me in a noisy and crowded area with my friends to my sides and placed his hand ON my gun. I didn't say he withdrew it. I assure you, I have met FEW people with the level of SA I maintain daily and I've learned it the hard way.
What if you are holding your newborn twins?
Ever broken 3 of your fingers in fast and traumatic way...
Unfortunately for him his radio and firearm were now inaccessible to him. And he was not real happy that the Sheriff and I had known each other for several years, I held the phone so his boss could talk to him, while we waited for his Shift Leader and the Ambulance to arrive at the location...
Main lesson to be learned is if you are going to be a Bully, bring friends to help you do what you plan to do...
Everyone? I hope. I do. I would like to think everyone who OCs carries with a retention holster. Blackhawk Serpa isn't the only one. There's also Safariland (they have several retention lines, including the ALS and SLS).
OCing without at least a level 2 retention holster is not a good idea.
That was the OP's story he observed in a LGS. I was merely describing a SIMILAR story involving a LEO which should know better than to grab a person's gun.not to get off track or anything, but you should watch IP Man 1 and 2 its about bruce lee's teacher before he was a teacher lol its an awesome movie, great martial arts in it, always makes me wanna learn Wing Chun
.....you can cut, slice, disembowel, kill a normal citizen who goes for your gun?
Holy cow. the world is a wilder and woolier place than I thought it was day before yesterday.
why would you treat it other wise?
Are you embarrassed that you didn't react while watching someone get their gun grabbed?
I'm curious as to why you weren't drawing your own gun the second the guys hand hit the grip.
I'm also curious if you've taken any Force on Force training?
Dom, none of us were there, YOU were. We can picture it in our heads from your vague recount but not the nuances that would make it apparent what the intent of the man would be. IMO you just got lucky as did everyone that was there that day.
The man who took the gun was an idiot even if he knew exactly what he was doing, jacking with a gun in public is moronic at best but throw in an unknown gun that someone you don't know is carrying is asking for all kinds of trouble.
To answer the OP, if that DID actually happen to me I would have to rethink a lot that I now believe about myself and I would probably have many sleepless nights afterward.
I gotta ask this, in what world is somebody grabbing your weapon possibly non threatening?After thinking about it. If the person was acting in a non threating manner I would be afraid to grab it and cause an ND.
I gotta ask this, in what world is somebody grabbing your weapon possibly non threatening?