One more thought on church carry. If your church has a school / preschool attached to it it may be off limits. This is one of the grey areas in Indiana law.
ACLARK:
What exactly would make church carry illegal?
get a copy of Indiana Handgun Law by Byran Lee Ciyou. It covers just about every possible senareo and explains the laws about were you can and cannot carry.
For example, you can bring a gun onto a school if your dropping a kid off, and you never leave the vehicle.
There is a lot of little stuff like that, little if, ands and buts.
+1I am a former police officer so let me point out the if a buisness posts signs (such as Walmart, they have poted signs a lot) state no weapons/handguns then you are not legal. The store is considered 'private property" They normally ask you to leave first if they see it.
Just what he said: if your church has a school, preschool, or day care attached, it is a violation of federal law to carry there as the facility is considered school property for purposes of Indiana handgun law.
I am a former police officer so let me point out the if a buisness posts signs (such as Walmart, they have poted signs a lot) state no weapons/handguns then you are not legal. The store is considered 'private property" They normally ask you to leave first if they see it.
Where in the IC does it say you cannot legally carry into an establishment that has a no firearms sign posted?
Where in the IC does it say that you cannot legally carry onto private property?
If you refuse to remove the weapon/leave you will normally be charged with criminal trespass and your weapon confiscated.
Technically it isn't illegal to carry a weapon but if you do not abide by the rules of the property owner that becomes illegal.
I think this is the point. Posting a sign that firearms are not allowed does not making carrying onto that property illegal. What I've seen on the hundreds of other posts that address this specific issue is that the property owner must ask you to leave first, and then it becomes criminal trespass if you refuse, but you must be asked to leave first.
Posting the sign does not make carrying onto that property illegal. Refusing to leave if asked to do so does.
Refusing to leave makes your presence on that property illegal, gun-toting or not. I know that's what you meant, but some would construe what you said as the act of carrying becomes illegal.
No, the presence of the firearm has no bearing on it.True however, it is the presence of the "firearm" that makes it become illegal for you to be there, asked to leave or however you want to term it without writing a legal brief.
IC 35-43-2-2
Criminal trespass; denial of entry; permission to enter; exceptions
Sec. 2. (a) A person who:
(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of another person after having been denied entry by the other person or that person's agent;
(2) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally refuses to leave the real property of another person after having been asked to leave by the other person or that person's agent;
...
commits criminal trespass, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class D felony if it is committed on a scientific research facility, on a key facility, on a facility belonging to a public utility (as defined in IC 32-24-1-5.9(a)), on school property, or on a school bus or the person has a prior unrelated conviction for an offense under this section concerning the same property.
Thanks for clarifying that. It is exactly what I meant.Refusing to leave makes your presence on that property illegal, gun-toting or not. I know that's what you meant, but some would construe what you said as the act of carrying becomes illegal.