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    Running in a crowded republican primary to be on the ballot for Manchin's senate seat. Must think he needs the teachers union and the Karen vote or doing the trained seal thing to get a Pfizer campaign contribution
    All too often, republicans don’t have a cause to run on but more like it’s just campaign rhetoric; stuff you believe the people who will vote for you want to hear you say. We don’t really care if you get it done as long as you say the right things.
     

    BugI02

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    All too often, republicans don’t have a cause to run on but more like it’s just campaign rhetoric; stuff you believe the people who will vote for you want to hear you say. We don’t really care if you get it done as long as you say the right things.
    Yeah, that guy is in his 70s I believe and already quite wealthy. He likely just wants money or power or both and doesn't want to have to get a real job

    Typically what delineates a RINO is having no principles beyond self-enrichment. At this point (as you have said about Trump) there is no excuse for not knowing the 'vaccine' isn't one and is essentially worthless to boot. Even if the bubble he is living in hasn't seen the evidence of the harm it causes, it should be plain that the young have very little to fear from the disease and the 'vaccine' will not prevent them from getting it. Why would a 'republican' wish to remove the element of liberty/personal choice? Because he's not really a republican , he's
    unitary and will sell his constituents out on a whim
     

    bgcatty

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    To answer the OP’s original thread question: Because if we don’t get the Democraps out now the Obama-Biden-Clinton triad and associated cabal will totally destroy The United States of America beyond all hope of survival of the true American way of life!
    :horse:
     

    BigRed

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    "This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance: The only practical purpose which it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip.”​

    ― Robert Lewis Dabney
     

    DadSmith

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    Nails it.


    Wow this is what many of us see but like myself could not put it into perspective like this guy. I know we need a new party or a radical change making the current Republican party a constitution loving party.
    Voting in RINO’s just because they are slightly better than a Democrat isn't helping at all.
    Need a new party or start Voting out RINO’s.
    Start at the state level start warning these RINO’s at state level to defend the constitution or you are out. If they don't change vote them out and a new person in give them the same warning. Repeat as needed.
     

    Ingomike

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    "This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance: The only practical purpose which it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip.”​

    ― Robert Lewis Dabney
    Wow this is what many of us see but like myself could not put it into perspective like this guy. I know we need a new party or a radical change making the current Republican party a constitution loving party.
    Voting in RINO’s just because they are slightly better than a Democrat isn't helping at all.
    Need a new party or start Voting out RINO’s.
    Start at the state level start warning these RINO’s at state level to defend the constitution or you are out. If they don't change vote them out and a new person in give them the same warning. Repeat as needed.
    All true but every bit of it is about the symptoms, not the actual problems. One problem is the people who vote for them, another is folks talk a big game about protecting the country and constitution but will not put any effort, beyond b****ing on the internet, another is to convince others to join us, to recruit candidates that are real conservatives that are then supported and funded to win.

    Our enemies are doing that and it even bleeds over into our side. Ever see a DINO? Not in recent times, maybe Manchion, the left is in lock step, but we republican/conservatives cannot elect a majority that believe one way, hence another speaker battle more resignations from congress.

    We need to look in the mirror instead of blaming the symptom…
     

    jamil

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    All true but every bit of it is about the symptoms, not the actual problems. One problem is the people who vote for them, another is folks talk a big game about protecting the country and constitution but will not put any effort, beyond b****ing on the internet, another is to convince others to join us, to recruit candidates that are real conservatives that are then supported and funded to win.

    Our enemies are doing that and it even bleeds over into our side. Ever see a DINO? Not in recent times, maybe Manchion, the left is in lock step, but we republican/conservatives cannot elect a majority that believe one way, hence another speaker battle more resignations from congress.

    We need to look in the mirror instead of blaming the symptom…

    Rightwing temperament isn't activist. It's the opposite. So if we're going to get to the root of the problem, it's that the right isn't wired to be activists. The left is, however, and I suspect that's why history moves left albeit with some corrections here and there. Conservatives want to conserve.

    Progressives want to progress. And they're activist about it, and convince some conservatives not to conserve certain social constructs. Some of that is good. It was good that we didn't conserve the attitudes that perpetuated slavery. Some of the "progress" is bad. ClownWorld™ is bad. Conservatives are becoming more engaged now because progressives want to sexualize their kids, for one of many other clowny examples.

    I think throughout history, this progression leftward has helped rid many traditions that are actually harmful to people. As long as there is a healthy conservative part of society that prevents the left from doing away with useful institutions, Idunnno, like a legal system that prosecutes actual violence. Conservatives allow incremental progress to be made, but are are the protectors against just any stupid idea the left can't seem to condemn.

    So now the Left has successfully disempowered the right from performing his historical societal role, and anything goes. And the Right has just now figured it out, and perhaps too late to correct it.

    You can complain about it all you want, but we're wired to see activism as a chore. They're wired to see activism as virtuous. A badge of honer. It's not a chore for them. And that's why that won't change. If you try to turn conservatives into activists, you end up with HOA's. And bike lanes. :):
     
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