Why you should carry on a loaded chamber...

[IN_Varmntr]

I came across this video on another site, and all I have to say is wow. The first shot he took looked like it was in the chest, and it looks like he was outnumbered 2 to 1, but man.

I never carry on an empty chamber but to those that are on the fence, just watch this.

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[modelflyer2003]

The way I see it is that you are either ready or you're not. If the man had practiced consistantly, with or without a round in the chamber, he may have reacted more appropriately. I say have a round chambered, safety off. Since I carry a revolver, that is a given. It seems that the extent of his preparation involved the possession of a firearm, but that is only one part of a broader plan. Thanks for sharing the video.

 

[R3ydium]

Food for thought . . . .

 

[PeacekeeperMX]

Wow, that's really sad. Thanks for sharing though and hopefully someone will learn from it.

 

[printcraft]

Yeah, that throws cold water on the "It does not matter if you carry chambered if you train" argument doesn't it?!?

 

[cce1302]

wow.

Did he even get a shot off? it looked like he was trying to get one into the chamber when they took the gun from him.

 

[modelflyer2003]

Another gun on the street. That's why guns should be outlawed....kidding.

 

[Jack Ryan]

wow.

Did he even get a shot off? it looked like he was trying to get one into the chamber when they took the gun from him.

May be his magazine fell out on the floor when he was in the crapper and his 360 degree constant awareness guy costume was in the shop.

 

[cce1302]

May be his magazine fell out on the floor when he was in the crapper and his 360 degree constant awareness guy costume was in the shop.

 

[IN_Varmntr]

Looking at it again, he was shot before he was even reaching for his gun. Looks as if the bad guys were looking to kill no matter what.

Not much for saving yourself in that situation but he still had a chance to bring one or both of them down.

 

[Fargo]

The way I see it is that you are either ready or you're not. If the man had practiced consistantly, with or without a round in the chamber, he may have reacted more appropriately. I say have a round chambered, safety off. Since I carry a revolver, that is a given. It seems that the extent of his preparation involved the possession of a firearm, but that is only one part of a broader plan. Thanks for sharing the video.

It looked to me like he had trained but having been hit was unable to get the job done and just kept clicking on an empty chamber. IMO that video does make a strong case against empty chamber carry.

That said, that looked more like a hit than a robbery. Too many others around and nothing taken that I could see for it to have been a competent robbery. I would say either a hit or a really scrub planning job by the pukes.

Best,

Joe

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

loaded chamber or not, if someone already has a gun on you and is already pulling the trigger...

You will NOT be able to "out draw" that person.

Chambered or not wouldn't have helped this guy much.

 

[45calibre]

That's sad. If he was shot before he drew he could have let some rounds of and probably hit some of them.

If you carry always carry loaded or don't carry at all.

 

[KDUBCR250]

If you carry always carry loaded or don't carry at all.

This !

 

[hookedonjeep]

Daddy always said that a gun without a round in the chamber is nothing more than a paperweight.....

 

[U.S. Patriot]

The time it takes to rack a round, could mean your life. In close quarters especially.

 

[TFin04]

Not much for saving yourself in that situation but he still had a chance to bring one or both of them down.

No, but he still had time to fight, had his gun been ready when he needed it.

 

[edsinger]

loaded chamber or not, if someone already has a gun on you and is already pulling the trigger...

You will NOT be able to "out draw" that person.

Chambered or not wouldn't have helped this guy much.

This is the exception I would think, he didnt have any time, loaded or not.


This was a hit.

 

[groovatron]

I think he could have put a few rounds in the BG's.....it looked like his pistol was malfunctioning....he kept racking the slide with no luck. You should always carry with one in the pipe, but if his first attempt to chamber a round was successful, he may have been able to injure the BG's....very sad regardless....no one should die like that.

 

[miguel]

I checked this video out and it looks like it was from a shop in India. Not sure how much range time this dude has ever seen!

Another video from the same city (Agra) provides another reason to be locked at loaded!

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