Will this stop a LTCH

[sig1473]

Dont know anyone involved but your post does give food for thought. Not everyone should be carrying, even if they have a right to. May seem unfair and judgmental but........

Precisely. Chases down someone with a crow bar and puts them in ICU. What if he would have had a gun? Was the crook even armed? These are very important things to be considered.

 

[netsecurity]

link to your source please ?

I don't have a link and IANAL, but I believe it is part of common law. Excessive force appears to be the problem here. But, any citizen's arrest requires the use of force to subdue the 'particular individual' until police arrive. If a man grabs your wallet, I am certain you can punch him in the face a few times to prevent his escape and then tie him up, so long as your very next step is to alert police, and not to torture the guy or use excessive force.

 

[Wheeler-Dealer]

Wow. .. wish I wasn't on my phone right now, I'd be quotin' & replyin' like a mofo

 

[addictedhealer]

Not unfair, definitely judgmental, and insanely self-righteous and arrogant. What other aspect of others' lives would you like to control?

+1.

Young men change rapidly at that age. I have had vehicles broken into, its very aggravating to say the least.

 

[TRWXXA]

I don't have a link and IANAL, but I believe it is part of common law. Excessive force appears to be the problem here. But, any citizen's arrest requires the use of force to subdue the 'particular individual' until police arrive. If a man grabs your wallet, I am certain you can punch him in the face a few times to prevent his escape and then tie him up, so long as your very next step is to alert police, and not to torture the guy or use excessive force.

IC 35-41-3-3Use of force relating to arrest or escape*****
Sec. 3. (a) A person other than a law enforcement officer is justified in using reasonable force against another person to effect an arrest or prevent the other person's escape if:********
(1) a felony has been committed; and********
(2) there is probable cause to believe the other person committed that felony.
However, such a person is not justified in using deadly force unless that force is justified under section 2 of this chapter.

There's the rub. You'd better be sure the crime committed is a felony before you start using force to affect a citizens arrest.

 

[Micah]

Wow.... This thread has really moved lol.

Orion arms called my buddy today. He was on hold for a P95. He got to pick it up today so hopefully his LTCH will go thru

 

[VERT]

Wow.... This thread has really moved lol.

Orion arms called my buddy today. He was on hold for a P95. He got to pick it up today so hopefully his LTCH will go thru

Glad to here your buddy got his gun. The P95 is a solid pistol. Make sure you teach him the ins and outs of working that DA/SA trigger.

Honestly I don't know if he should carry. If he chased someone and beat them into the ICU then what will he do if he catches someone.again, execute them with his carry gun?

Mixed feelings about this because the young man showed bad judgement. But that is part of being young and lets face it experience is basically learning from your mistakes. However just because he has a bit of a past does not mean he should not be able to carry a gun. 1) People mature a lot between 18 - 24. 2) Next to fathering a child, carrying a gun is the biggest responsibility a person can have. My guess is that instead of getting mad this young man would recognize that introducing a gun into the situation would make it worse and alter his actions.

Having met Micah I am sure he will give his young friend some tips on how to properly handle his new weapon.

 

[Micah]

Thank you for that Vert.

I took him to Henryville right after he picked it up. $60 worth of ammo goes down range pretty fast lol.

 

[Micah]

Precisely. Chases down someone with a crow bar and puts them in ICU. What if he would have had a gun? Was the crook even armed? These are very important things to be considered.

Wow....crow bar?? Where did I say anything about Daniel having a weapon? Talk about jumping to conclusion.

 

[swilk]

Assuming that is a Cowboys tattoo on his right arm I say give him the permit .... obviously a good guy.

j/k ... I would say that he wont know until he tries. So ... try.

 

[sig1473]

Wow....crow bar?? Where did I say anything about Daniel having a weapon? Talk about jumping to conclusion.

My bad. I thought I read crowbar in the OP. My apologies.

 

[Dutch87]

Assuming that is a Cowboys tattoo on his right arm I say give him the LTCH .... obviously a good guy.

j/k ... I would say that he wont know until he tries. So ... try.

FIFY

 

[Micah]

My bad. I thought I read crowbar in the OP. My apologies.

lol no big deal. I have to admit, I chuckled when I read it thought

 

[Micah]

Well, he received his LTCH :-)

 

[VERT]

Well, he received his LTCH :-)

Gun - Check ... LTCH - Check .... Now for more mags, a belt, a holster, and the dedication to learn how to use the firearm properly.

 

[Mark 1911]

Glad to hear he got it. People do grow up.

 

[ajeandy]

A good friend of mine wants to apply for his LTCH. He is 24 now. When he was 18 he caught someone breaking into his car and beat the crook to the point he was placed in the ICU for a week. My friend got 1 year of probation. No jail time. The crook ran and my buddy chased after him.

When he was 18 and again at 19 he got 2 separate misdemeanor for weed. 6 months probation for each offense.

If he is not eligible now, is there a time limit that will allow those issues to disappear?

Man you know a few people with records haha

 

[Micah]

Man you know a few people with records haha

Roflol!! This one is an employee. The other one I was wrote about today it my brother...... Good catch lol

 

[EXLINE]

I use to smoke a lot of pot when I was younger and got a couple possession of paraphernalia charges which I pled to so I didn't lose my drivers license because you do for Poy possession. I got my ltch when I was young and was able to buy rifles and shotguns but got denied a handgun purchase when I was 21. Per indiana code I was labeled a drug abuser which is 2 or more drug charges within 5 yrs but pot doesn't fall into that category but everything else does. Good news is that's long over and once the first paraphernalia fell off I was good to go. Ole' the good days of being young and dumb thinking you were invincible. Glad all that is behind me and no I don't smoke pot anymore

 

[Lectric102002]

I use to smoke a lot of pot when I was younger and got a couple possession of paraphernalia charges which I pled to so I didn't lose my drivers license because you do for Poy possession. I got my ltch when I was young and was able to buy rifles and shotguns but got denied a handgun purchase when I was 21. Per indiana code I was labeled a drug abuser which is 2 or more drug charges within 5 yrs but pot doesn't fall into that category but everything else does. Good news is that's long over and once the first paraphernalia fell off I was good to go. Ole' the good days of being young and dumb thinking you were invincible. Glad all that is behind me and no I don't smoke pot anymore

"Do you take drugs, Danny?"
"Every day"
"Good. So, what's the problem?"