Is The Left/Right Divide Bridgeable?

[loudgroove]

I will admit I haven't read all 8 pages, but this is my thoughts. The divide will continue till we the people rid BOTH the let and the right politicians that has been bought by international communist. As an independent I have seen this country heading in the same direction regardless of who is the majority in power. I am not saying everyone in DC has been bought. My guess is at least 90% of the Dems and 50% of the republicans are in fact compromised. And what we are seeing is simply a complex political theater. Where as the left and their sheep are hell bent on bringing socialism "AKA communism" to this country while about half of the right are in fact making it easy for them to do so. So I can't see a bridge till these people are held accountable. This is truly sad for our country if I am right about this.

 

[jamil]

Only 6 people who voted think that the left/right divide can be bridged. I'd like to hear their rationale. Because in its current state it can't be. There's no bridge between them because worldviews are complete different.

In my world, there is no such thing as men dressing in women's swimsuits and competing against women, and people being completely okay with that. That just doesn't exist in the world I want to be a part of. There's no compromise for that.

In my world, we enforce immigration laws. If we think the immigration law is too strict, we go about changing it in a constitutionally derived legislative process.

In my world, we don't allow government to use tech companies to subvert constitutional protections.

The only way two sides like this can coexist is for one of the sides to capitulate in their worldview. I'm not going to do that. There is no compromise for ClownWorld™.

For example, I can't go half way and just say, okay, fine, you can have your drag queen show at the elementary school, and I guess you can shove yer junk in kids faces, but you have to take down the "it won't lick itself" sign. Nah! There's no compromising on that. No common ground there. In my worldview, the wood chipper is the proper resolver of such conflicts. No sexualization of children.

 

[BugI02]

I will admit I haven't read all 8 pages, but this is my thoughts. The divide will continue till we the people rid BOTH the let and the right politicians that has been bought by international communist. As an independent I have seen this country heading in the same direction regardless of who is the majority in power. I am not saying everyone in DC has been bought. My guess is at least 90% of the Dems and 50% of the republicans are in fact compromised. And what we are seeing is simply a complex political theater. Where as the left and their sheep are hell bent on bringing socialism "AKA communism" to this country while about half of the right are in fact making it easy for them to do so. So I can't see a bridge till these people are held accountable. This is truly sad for our country if I am right about this.

The only bridge I can see is built out of spent brass

 

[Magyars]

If Men Were Men, They’d Take Back Their Liberty [or — Be a Lion In Defense of Liberty]

“Americans either fight now to save America and freedom for America’s Children and Their Children’s Children and arrive on the other side with the forces of truth, liberty and lif…

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[bgcatty]

Bridgeable? To take a line from a very famous movie back when America was a healthy normal country;
Ain‘t no way, Ain’t no how!

 

[Shadow01]

When communists get on their knees and admit that they are Treasonous cowards, I will accept their life sentence with no parole. Then we can bridge the gap.

 

[Leadeye]

If Men Were Men, They’d Take Back Their Liberty [or — Be a Lion In Defense of Liberty]

“Americans either fight now to save America and freedom for America’s Children and Their Children’s Children and arrive on the other side with the forces of truth, liberty and lif…

www.theburningplatform.com

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I've already chosen a side, but it's a long hike to my front door. The opposition looks like it would be worn out by the time it gets here.

 

[Tombs]

When communists get on their knees and admit that they are Treasonous cowards, I will accept their life sentence with no parole. Then we can bridge the gap.

Life sentence isn't enough, an example needs to be made or else we will suffer the same fate within a generation.

Taking mercy on those who have no mercy for you has NEVER worked in all of human history.

I don't think there's enough spine on the right to do what is necessary to keep this country, and that's going to be what eventually does us in. The right is collectively more concerned about outside nations and advocating policy decisions that further push us off the edge of the cliff right now, while our opposition has a knife to our kids' throats. (And the sad thing is that isn't even an analogy anymore, but what is actually happening)

 

[Shadow01]

Life sentence isn't enough, an example needs to be made or else we will suffer the same fate within a generation.

Taking mercy on those who have no mercy for you has NEVER worked in all of human history.

I don't think there's enough spine on the right to do what is necessary to keep this country, and that's going to be what eventually does us in. The right is collectively more concerned about outside nations and advocating policy decisions that further push us off the edge of the cliff right now, while our opposition has a knife to our kids' throats. (And the sad thing is that isn't even an analogy anymore, but what is actually happening)

Typically people on the right have more to lose personally than those on the left. That seems to stifle their willingness to jump in the pond. They also claim they don’t want to create something that their children or grandchildren will have live through All the while dismissing the one thing that is slowly creating a horrible future for them. The left are takers. That’s all they know.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

I remember in the book Blackhawk Down, the author talked a lot about his interviews with Somali people who belonged to the different factions that were fighting for control. He said that all of the people would begin by saying something to the effect of "All we want is peace." but when asked if they would accept peace under control of a different faction they would say "I would die fighting first."

 

[jwamplerusa]

Life sentence isn't enough, an example needs to be made or else we will suffer the same fate within a generation.

Taking mercy on those who have no mercy for you has NEVER worked in all of human history.

I don't think there's enough spine on the right to do what is necessary to keep this country, and that's going to be what eventually does us in. The right is collectively more concerned about outside nations and advocating policy decisions that further push us off the edge of the cliff right now, while our opposition has a knife to our kids' throats. (And the sad thing is that isn't even an analogy anymore, but what is actually happening)

I gravitate toward Jefferson's position, though it took me years to understand where he was coming from and what the qoutation likely actually meant. I first had to gain a greater understanding of the Founding Fathers world view, rooted in monarchical Europe.

In a 1787 letter to William Stephens Smith, the son-in-law of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson used the phrase "tree of liberty":

"I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11 years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order. I hope in god this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted."

This passage in particular is important; "The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them". You terminate the leaders and instigators. You pardon the rank and file. It is in large measure what we did after the Civil War when the preceding construct was still understood. It would serve the Nation well to remember this methodology.

Now for non-citizens? Whether it is expulsion or an opportunity to pick a wall or a rope, I do not care.

Also consider Jefferson's admonition that the blood of tyrants is what feeds and causes the Tree of Liberty (functionally for us the Bill of Rights and Preambles to same and the Constitution) to grow and be sustained (It's natural manure). Worth pondering as we approach a critical election. (hopefully the blood can remain metaphorical)

 

[BugI02]

Taking mercy on those who have no mercy for you has NEVER worked in all of human history.

Is this the same poster who seems to have trouble with Israeli actions in Gaza?

Holy contradictions, Batman!

 

[Tombs]

Is this the same poster who seems to have trouble with Israeli actions in Gaza?

Holy contradictions, Batman!

I couldn't care less about Gaza or palestinians, they aren't Americans. But yes, I did make a big stink when Israel murdered American citizens.

What I care about is people sleep walking into leftism, in pursuit of supporting a foreign nation.
And yes it is a double standard, because I only care about this country and our people, due to seeing what influence foreign entanglements bring.

 

[BugI02]

Israel is like social security and medicare to me, by which I mean that you can make the argument for reform, but they had better be the last items on the list and reform needs to come first for all the other stupid, frivolous expenditures - then we'll talk but not before

 

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[jamil]

I'm sure you all have seen this. I just got around to watching it. Pretty entertaining really. This is definitely division. ****ing cat fights in congress. MTG isn't helping.



Okay. MTG is not the sharpest tool in the shed herself. Shouldn't have said it. But she's not wrong.

 

[Ingomike]

I'm sure you all have seen this. I just got around to watching it. Pretty entertaining really. This is definitely division. ****ing cat fights in congress. MTG isn't helping.



Okay. MTG is not the sharpest tool in the shed herself. Shouldn't have said it. But she's not wrong.

When there is no heat in congress to warm the soup, the people send flamethrowers…

 

[jamil]

Or idiots.

 

[Magyars]