The Agitator: Jenny McCarthy Continues Kid Killing

[Wild Deuce]

National Vaccine Information Center

 

[Ted]

She's no more responsible for deaths than gun manufacturers are.

No more than "shouting 'Fire' in a crowded theater". Right?

 

[88GT]

If you're asking for me to tell you why some people have autism, then you are asking me to make irresponsible statements. I believe there are side effects to most things, and I believe the diseases we vaccinate against are generally unpleasant and sometimes fatal. There no evidence to make any stronger statement or correlation than that.

If I were asking you to tell me why some people have autism, I would have asked you to tell me why some people have autism. Instead....

Do you deny that vaxes are a contributing factor in some autism diagnoses? Yes or no answer.

Do you claim absolutely that there is zero connection of any sort between vaxes and autism diagnoses? Yes or no answer.

Pretty simple.

 

[Expat]

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Safety/main menu page

The above is from the CDC. Don't rely upon info from Playboy models, a guy who admits he faked the vaccine/autism study, or other people who will sell you magnets or other snake oils.

 

[level.eleven]

Vaxers: The New Discovery Institute.

 

[Ted]

Autism Science Foundation

.....We’ve done multiple studies looking at the measles, mumps and rubella vaccination in relation to autism. We’ve looked at thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative, and its relation to autism. The studies are very clear; there is no relationship in the data between vaccines and autism......

This seems to be the position of every reputable organization upon the subject.

 

[Ted]

How common is Autism?

According to a 2012 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring Network: 1 in 88.

1990s: 1 in 2,500, and subsequently changed to 1 in 1,000.

1980s: 1 in 10,000.

It is problematic to compare autism rates over the last three decades, as the diagnostic criteria for autism have changed with each revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). In 1983 the DSM did not recognize PDD-NOS or Asperger's syndrome, and the criteria for autistic disorder (AD) were more restrictive.

How can anyone reasonably believe that Autism is caused by a vaccine, when medical science can't cohesively agree upon the diagnostic criteria?

 

[Lex Concord]

No more than "shouting 'Fire' in a crowded theater". Right?

Quite an impressive stretch there, Reed.

 

[steveh_131]

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Safety/main menu page

The above is from the CDC. Don't rely upon info from Playboy models, a guy who admits he faked the vaccine/autism study, or other people who will sell you magnets or other snake oils.

Or you could, you know, read the bunch of research papers that I posted.

 

[Wild Deuce]

No more than "shouting 'Fire' in a crowded theater". Right?

Depends ... is the theater on fire?

 

[88GT]

How can anyone reasonably believe that Autism is caused by a vaccine, when medical science can't cohesively agree upon the diagnostic criteria?

Strictly speaking, that's a logical fallacy. The cause is independent of our ability to categorize and label it.

 

[Fargo]

Quite an impressive stretch there, Reed.

Yeah, especially since in my case the theater was on fire and I lost 1/2 my hearing because of it...

Once again, the Mayo clinic who diagnosed me "must be stopped" too I suppose?

Joe

 

[Fargo]

How common is Autism?




How can anyone reasonably believe that Autism is caused by a vaccine, when medical science can't cohesively agree upon the diagnostic criteria?

Forget autism, lets just for a moment consider the anaphylactic shock and encephalopathy that the Feds recognize is caused by the vaccine and have set up a fund of tax dollars to settle claims over...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Once again, the Mayo clinic who diagnosed me "must be stopped" too I suppose?

Is the Mayo Clinic claiming that they have cured autism? Is the Mayo Clinic babbling on about indigo children?

Is the Mayo Clinic telling parents not to vaccinate their children based on fraudulent studies?

Let's look:

Childhood vaccines: Tough questions, straight answers - MayoClinic.com

Nope, the Mayo Clinic is not.

Once individualized medicine advances (well, OK, now IF it advances post 2014), doctors at the Mayo Clinic may find markers among certain individuals which point out that vaccines are dangerous for certain individuals. We should be receptive to changes in science but not receptive to models who want to be noticed.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

People fear want they cannot control. We all know people who fearing flying (non-TSA fears aside) even though flying is safer as they cannot control the commerical plane but they can control the motor vehicle.

If we have fears then let them be dictated by science instead of starlets.

 

[hornadylnl]

People fear want they cannot control. We all know people who fearing flying (non-TSA fears aside) even though flying is safer as they cannot control the commerical plane but they can control the motor vehicle.

If we have fears then let them be dictated by science instead of starlets.

Or lawyers.

 

[Ted]

Quite an impressive stretch there, Reed.

Okay, I'll bite. Who is Reed?

 

[Ted]

Strictly speaking, that's a logical fallacy. The cause is independent of our ability to categorize and label it.

How can science identify the cause, if science isn't able to conclusively identify who is suffering from it?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Or lawyers.

That is the last thing we need.

 

[printcraft]

Okay, I'll bite. Who is Reed?

Reed Richards

Lex thinks you are fantastic!