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Jedi that little stove will work.
It will work fine, especially with white gas. Its a backpacking burner. Use a windscreen (you can make one out of h.d. tinfoil, doubled thick, about 6" tall and curled about 3/4 of the way around the burner) to dramatically increase efficiency. Works well with titanium backpacker pots, jetboil pots, etc.
BTW, it says it works with all fuel, including #1 diesel. FYI, road diesel is #2 and contains parrafin wax. #1 diesel is often called winter blend, it doesn't have the parrafin. Don't use standard #2 diesel in that stove unless the fine pint on the instructions say its OK to do so.
It came with thick thin foil windscreen as well as a small cloth carrying case and some spare parts.
I opened it a bit ago to see what was in it.
Says to use
butane, white gas, kerosene, diesel #1, auto fuel, jet fuel.
Figure I try butane or kerosene. Have to go back to cabela's this weekend to due a return and will see about the butane.
what the heck is 'white gas'?
jet fuel hum??? nah I rather use my limited jet fuel for my spaceship.
Butane is canister gas.
White Gas is a liquid fuel, often sold under the Coleman brand name. Its much more stable than gasoline, doesn't degrade with time, and used by many camping stoves, burns hot and clean.
My guess is that your stove probably has 2 or 3 different fuel apertures (nozzles) that are fuel specific. Butane may have the largest hole, #1 diesel/jet fuel would probably use the smallest.
Stoves like that typically require the nozzle to be cleaned pretty regularly, especially so if you switch your fuels. Butane is probably the most expensive fuel to use but it may also be the cleanest and easiest to operate in your stove so it may be worth the trade off to you. With butane you may not have to clean it at all?
I've not used that brand of stove while backpacking but its a pretty common multi-fuel design.
White Gas is a liquid fuel, often sold under the Coleman brand name. Its much more stable than gasoline, doesn't degrade with time, and used by many camping stoves, burns hot and clean.
My guess is that your stove probably has 2 or 3 different fuel apertures (nozzles) that are fuel specific. Butane may have the largest hole, #1 diesel/jet fuel would probably use the smallest.
Stoves like that typically require the nozzle to be cleaned pretty regularly, especially so if you switch your fuels. Butane is probably the most expensive fuel to use but it may also be the cleanest and easiest to operate in your stove so it may be worth the trade off to you. With butane you may not have to clean it at all?
I've not used that brand of stove while backpacking but its a pretty common multi-fuel design.
Looking at the photo, you can see a sliver colored disc inside the brass cup in the center of your stove. The gas aperture (nozzle) is under that silver disc at the bottom of the brass cup and again, you may have 2 or 3 different size nozzles that are fuel type specific. My guess is that you flip out that silver colored disc when you are burning butane because you probably won't need it for butane. There is a retainer clip on one of the 3 'legs' that prevents you from losing that silver disc.
That disc is probably used with the liquid fuels like white gas, kero, #1 diesel, etc. You have to preheat it by starting a primer flame. That primer flame heats up that silver disc which allows the heavier types of fuel to vaporize when you start the stove. FOLLOW YOUR INSTRUCTIONS, they will vary with each type of fuel.
Also, make sure you empty the fuel from the fuel line between the canister and the stove, it may involve something as simple as turning off the gas at the tank and then rotating the tank (while the stove control is still turned ON). Again, follow the instructions on YOUR stove.
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I say we just burn a log. It sounds easier.
but... but.. I don't know how to read!
Maybe I'll just rob lone and wd of their food as thugs do.
Correct on the nozzle per the instructions depending on the type of fuel the orange cup has 2 settings: G or L for gas or liquid fuels. You turn it depending on the fuel you are going to use.
The instructions give a specific shut down process that ensures the stove will clean it's nozzle as the fuel is killed off. It stress to follow that method to ensure best performance in the long run.
I did not notice a retention clip on my unit but did not pay too much attention was reading the papers that came with it and wonder on the pump mechanism. You pump the fuel bottom to create pressure on the fuel in order to send the fuel to the burner.
Maybe I'll just rob lone and wd of their food as thugs do.
Correct on the nozzle per the instructions depending on the type of fuel the orange cup has 2 settings: G or L for gas or liquid fuels. You turn it depending on the fuel you are going to use.
The instructions give a specific shut down process that ensures the stove will clean it's nozzle as the fuel is killed off. It stress to follow that method to ensure best performance in the long run.
I did not notice a retention clip on my unit but did not pay too much attention was reading the papers that came with it and wonder on the pump mechanism. You pump the fuel bottom to create pressure on the fuel in order to send the fuel to the burner.
true da!
But I figured this is a good test of this 2 year old gifted stove. Best to learn how to use it now in case I need it later.
Besides I was planning on giving it to you to fire up 500 yards away from the camp site just in case.
^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^
Has anyone ever heard of eating these 2 foods together? I'm thinking this is a southern thing.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/break-room/312823-peanut-butter-sandwich-chili.html
If they are available. If they are dry enough to light. If open fires are allowed.
Lots of places, especially in dry areas, back country areas, trail routes, etc don't allow open camp fires because they scar the ground and burn all the living organisms in the soil leaving a 'dead' spot in the ground that takes a year or more to heal.
Meh at the rate we are going no need to worry about next year.
So butane is a 'gas' fuel?
vs these that are 'liquid' fuels?
white gas, kerosene, diesel #1, auto fuel, jet fuel.
So how on earth do you get a 'gas' into the bottle for the stove???
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Looking at this
Amazon.com: MSR Fuel Bottle: Sports & Outdoors
the butane already comes in a container??????
ok I'm off to sleep
Butane comes in prefilled canisters. Your stove will (somehow) connect to the canister. Butane is also pressurized in the canister. So when you are using butane you do not use the fuel bottle, or need to pump it to pressurize it. Depending on the stove, the stove part may attach directly to the Butane canister (sit on top of it) or it may attach via the hose with an adapter.
Liquid fuels like white gas, gasoline, etc etc all need to be carried in the fuel bottle, which you would fill at home. You then pump the bottle to pressurize the fuel so it flows to the stove through the tube. With liquid fuels you have to prime the burner (that silver disc thing) to vaporize the fuel for cooking.
Liquid fuels like white gas, gasoline, etc etc all need to be carried in the fuel bottle, which you would fill at home. You then pump the bottle to pressurize the fuel so it flows to the stove through the tube. With liquid fuels you have to prime the burner (that silver disc thing) to vaporize the fuel for cooking.
My wife and I would gladly go with your wife. We like it too.
You, meh, stay at home if you don't like it
But, uh, send your credit card with your wife so she can pay for our meals.
That got a smile from the wife. I might just take you up on that next July.
Rob? I was thinking moochbut... but.. I don't know how to read!
Maybe I'll just rob lone and wd of their food as thugs do.
Correct on the nozzle per the instructions depending on the type of fuel the orange cup has 2 settings: G or L for gas or liquid fuels. You turn it depending on the fuel you are going to use.
The instructions give a specific shut down process that ensures the stove will clean it's nozzle as the fuel is killed off. It stress to follow that method to ensure best performance in the long run.
I did not notice a retention clip on my unit but did not pay too much attention was reading the papers that came with it and wonder on the pump mechanism. You pump the fuel bottom to create pressure on the fuel in order to send the fuel to the burner.
NO
At least I think its still NO. It was under the former laws, but with the laws that changed it may be, but I think its still NO.
And just curious, does your "Whisperlite" stove sound sort of like a small jet engine?
Most of these small pressurized gas stoves are pretty loud. Less so when used with a butane canister but more so when used with white gas or other liquid fuel.
I live about three blocks from their. That place can get really crazy with the school kids. There's normally two to three Hobart LEO there.I get to go on a Field Trip with my son today for school @ CountyLine Orchard.....
On the plus side, I'll be picking up some Cider and cinnamon/apple donuts
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