With R's controlling EVERYTHING now What new legislation do you want?

[HHollow]

Subsidized guns and ammo for low income citizens.

 

[jamil]

Revenue and control. It is also an employment thing. How many heads are we paying to manipulate or hobby/passion in the name of safety.

Like some states requiring an 8 hour "training" session before they will permit the peasants to exercise a right. I've thought of moving back to KY when I'm sitting in the middle of the I-64 parking lot, but then I think of all the taxes and legislating "safety".

I'd like to see a study prove that 8-hour class makes new KY gun toters any safer than Indiana's. But it's created a whole new revenue stream for trainers.

 

[churchmouse]

Like some states requiring an 8 hour "training" session before they will permit the peasants to exercise a right. I've thought of moving back to KY when I'm sitting in the middle of the I-64 parking lot, but then I think of all the taxes and legislating "safety".

I'd like to see a study prove that 8-hour class makes new KY gun toters any safer than Indiana's. But it's created a whole new revenue stream for trainers.

The EPA induced Refrigerant training class's for HVAC techs.
2 full days and $200 when I got mine and it was a complete joke. Absolute waste of my time. Pay to play. That is all this crap is.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Of note: Indiana only disenfranchises while one is incarcerated. After the sentence is served, they may vote. Three states, Maine, Vermont, and (as of 2 mos ago, 9/16) California allow felons to vote even while incarcerated.

So... We can allow them the privileges of citizenship, but not the God-given, natural rights inherent in simply being alive?

I couldn't care less what the person's economic status is; Rich man, poor man, begger man, thief, doctor, lawyer, or Indian chief. People have rights.

Also of note: Kut, this was in reply to your post, but only the first three sentences are directed to you, personally, in correction of the factual error of whoever told you that.

Blessings,
Bill

Never happen. Govt need an enduring underclass to rule. Felon's don't have the opportunity to vote nor defend themselves. It's pretty shameful, and of course, it's always the poorest of Americans.

 

[rugertoter]

Now that Trump has won, basically ANY pro 2A legislation we want should be able to get passed EASILY. So what do you guys want?

First on my list is NATIONAL concealed carry reciprocity. This means that your carry permit/license works like a drivers license, good all through out the nation, and less like a gym membership (only good at select locations).

Any others?

The main thing for me is reciprocity as well, but I don't think they will be able to "make" states like Kalifornia, NY, Mass., and others comply. They would fight this every step of the way.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I'd like to see a study prove that 8-hour class makes new KY gun toters any safer than Indiana's. But it's created a whole new revenue stream for trainers.

It made it safer for KY hunters. They saw a 1/3 reduction in fatal hunting accidents, IIRC.

 

[Fullmag]

It is maddening too me that many of the first 13 States, mostly in New England, celebrate landmarks, ancestors, re-enactments of batlles and maneuvers. These same states that were the colonies that refused to sign bill of rights until there was a 2nd amendment now have the some of the strongest gun control laws. These same states will fight with insane ferocity to keep their citizens from the same freedom that was so valuable 240 years ago.

 

[Principal Skinr]

Line item veto and a balanced budget. Reciprocity is nice, but not #1 on my priority list. I also want to see deregulation, reform of the tax code, and a corporate tax rate cut. Oh, and complete defunding of Planned Parenthood. Obamacare needs to be dealt with, but that one is a bit complicated and will require some careful work. Immigration reform also needs to happen, and quickly. On top of that, let the states who wanted legal marijuana have their fun, but tax the crap out of them. I'd also like to see federal subsidies for many things end, including corn/ethanol. I'd also love to see what we can do to that agreement with Iran. I'd like to see Trump force them to give back some of that money that was handed over to them.

I'm only getting warmed up.

 

[seagullplayer]

Term limits on everyone elected.

This is the greatest bang for the buck solution to many of our problems current and future.


Healthcare cost, start reducing them. Stop talking about insurance, they are not the same thing.

NOTE: If you have health insurance and you or your employer are not paying for it, you don't have insurance, you are on welfare...

Dump the VA. Give veterans a card and allow them to get help anywhere they choose.

(Note gun related? I used the word bang.)

 

[Kutnupe14]

Term limits on everyone elected.

This is the greatest bang for the buck solution to many of our problems current and future.


Healthcare cost, start reducing them. Stop talking about insurance, they are not the same thing.

NOTE: If you have health insurance and you or your employer are not paying for it, you don't have insurance, you are on welfare...

Dump the VA. Give veterans a card and allow them to get help anywhere they choose.

(Note gun related? I used the word bang.)

Or eliminate it completely. Unless you have a medical condition that is related to your service in the military, you should pay for your own healthcare.

 

[jamil]

Or eliminate it completely. Unless you have a medical condition that is related to your service in the military, you should pay for your own healthcare.

I look at VA benefits as employer benefits. It's part of the compensation package. I'm okay with that.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I look at VA benefits as employer benefits. It's part of the compensation package. I'm okay with that.

Fair enough. My pop did 28 years, in the Army, and has his own insurance. He views it as a handout. Well, I guess it's moot point, we know it's never going away.

 

[jamil]

Fair enough. My pop did 28 years, in the Army, and has his own insurance. He views it as a handout. Well, I guess it's moot point, we know it's never going away.

While I admire his attitude, I think it is more accurate to view it as benefits. His employer promised him various benefits in return for his service. VA benefits are not welfare or handouts. He fulfilled his end of the contract. It's okay to expect the VA to fulfill theirs.

 

[chipbennett]

+7x10^46

If they aren't doing something to make government less intrusive, they shouldn't be doing it. I'm not even all that keen on federally mandated carry reciprocity. Let the legislatures of the states fix themselves. Otherwise, you encroach more on the power of the states and give it to the Feds.

The Iron Curtain states are going to "fix themselves"? No. The only way for those states to stop violating basic, constitutionally protected, human rights is to force them to.

And a federal law that requires all states that issue resident carry permits to honor the resident carry permits issued to residents of other states gives the federal government zero additional power. Further, the constitution has already prohibited to the states the power to infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms, through the second amendment.

 

[chipbennett]

Why would you want Concealed Carry Reciprocity? States will fight and new restrictions and requirements to obtain a license would likely be implemented.

As for me, true Constitutional carry in all states and repeal the NFA, GCA of 1968, and disban the BATFE.

How? Why?

What on earth would compel, say, Indiana to change its LTCH laws for the worse, on the basis of federally mandated carry reciprocity?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I know it's very early, and doubtful that anyone has much detail... but national reciprocity seems like one of the more feasible things that might happen.

Has there been any talk from the NRA or people that might draft such a law on whether it would change what the current licenses allow?

All they say is "conceal carry reciprocity" over and over... and we should be sure that such a law wouldn't accidentally disallow open-carry.

Indiana's LTCH would still remain in it's current form, no reason it should change, right?

 

[chipbennett]

It made it safer for KY hunters. They saw a 1/3 reduction in fatal hunting accidents, IIRC.

Ex hoc ergo propter hoc.

Since when are concealed carry licenses (and, therefore, the training required to acquire said concealed carry license) required for hunting?

 

[chipbennett]

I know it's very early, and doubtful that anyone has much detail... but national reciprocity seems like one of the more feasible things that might happen.

Has there been any talk from the NRA or people that might draft such a law on whether it would change what the current licenses allow?

All they say is "conceal carry reciprocity" over and over... and we should be sure that such a law wouldn't accidentally disallow open-carry.

Indiana's LTCH would still remain in it's current form, no reason it should change, right?

That's why I refer to it merely as carry reciprocity. Non-residents using their state-issued resident carry permit to carry in another state would still have to follow the laws of the other state, with respect to manner of carry (i.e. open vs. concealed).

 

[ATM]

The Iron Curtain states are going to "fix themselves"? No. The only way for those states to stop violating basic, constitutionally protected, human rights is to force them to.

When the residents have had enough of their rights being violated, they will resist.

 

[chipbennett]

When the residents have had enough of their rights being violated, they will resist.

And in the meantime (assuming that ever happens), what about the non-residents?

(Asking for Shaneen Allen.)