A dozen armed agents raid animal shelter to execute captive baby deer

[Sfrandolph]

Should this be used as a lesson? Would it not make the same illogical sense to now execute all those on welfare? Of course not. The people in the govt are totally insane.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why can a person own a dog, and not a deer?

Because the laws says this.

Wildlife are property of the state.

If you own a deer you are stealing from the state. This is about property rights.

The state is the only entity who can own a deer? Some standard you have there.

In the state of Wisconsin, the only entity that can own a deer is the state. It is the standard of property rights.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

That deer probably had incriminating information on someone and had to be silenced.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That deer probably had incriminating information on someone and had to be silenced.

Good points. I fallow what you are saying.

The fawn had a spotty past, like something to hide. The police were velvet smooth in their ninjaness.

 

[traderdan]

Now THAT would be some tender loin!

 

[Mgderf]

Was the fawn resisting?

We got to kill 'em so they don't starve.

Huntin' and Killin' - Video Clips - South Park Studios

 

[dsol]

When fawns are outlawed, only outlaws will have fawns.

Did they kill the little critter?

 

[Magneto]

These types of raids are becoming SOP, and are no longer a rarity. The show of overwhelming firepower and para-military dress has no place in everyday law enforcement. When do people finally wake up and say enough?

 

[indyk]

These types of raids are becoming SOP, and are no longer a rarity. The show of overwhelming firepower and para-military dress has no place in everyday law enforcement. When do people finally wake up and say enough?

This is exactly what I'm saying, These bozos couldn't wait to play dress-up, and practice extreme tactics in a situation such as this, ALL it would have taken was 1 individual from the DNR to talk about the situation and then that 1 agent can go to his truck, grab a cage, and take the deer away.

BUT

look what they done instead.

Now I got my tin foil hat on.

Now we have the DNR and local police acting like SPETSNAZ.

I think the National Guard, NSA, CIA, ATF, DHS, DNR, FBI, Sheriffs Dept, State Police, are using like situations to "practice" per say, to use new aggressive tactics locally, to prepare for some far out domestic situation, or just a plain new initiative to "tighten up" on "civilians" in America.

Perhaps some of Ingo's Spetznas or local law enforcement can tell if this theory is correct??

 

[rambone]

In the state of Wisconsin, the only entity that can own a deer is the state. It is the standard of property rights.

It is an perversion of property rights. No property rights are recognized except for the government's illegitimate claims. Everyone else's property rights have been abolished.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It is an perversion of property rights. No property rights are recognized except for the government's illegitimate claims. Everyone else's property rights have been abolished.

Agreed, especially considering that as previously mentioned, actual property rights would include taking responsibility for the damage that 'property' does to the property of others, which is NOT the case with state claims over animals. Besides, why should the state have rights over an animal residing in the state over the landowner on whose property the animal resides, eats, damages fences, and damages automobiles while crossing the road in proscribed areas?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It is an perversion of property rights. No property rights are recognized except for the government's illegitimate claims. Everyone else's property rights have been abolished.

LOL.

The only perversion here is the Rule of Man. Someone decides that they are above the rule of law and in their totalitarian fantasy a la L. Neil Smith decides what property rights are.

The only thing that was abolished was the Rule of Man deciding to do whatever they want and everyone else's property rights be damned.

That does not mean that this inane made-for-budget meetings ninja raid was warranted. The police should not be dressing as Das Reich and running over chickens in tanks.

One guy with a .22 pistol and a clipboard could have handled this.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Besides, why should the state have rights over an animal residing in the state over the landowner on whose property the animal resides, eats, damages fences, and damages automobiles while crossing the road in proscribed areas?

A philosophical question best answered at the legislature.

Some states hold that landowners own the animals, most states do not.

 

[IndyDave1776]

A philosophical question best answered at the legislature.

Some states hold that landowners own the animals, most states do not.

Perhaps so, but it defies my understanding that any reasonable argument can be made for the notion of claiming ownership while disowning responsibility aside from 'we're the government and we can do whatever we want'.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

but it defies my understanding that any reasonable argument can be made for the notion of claiming ownership while disowning responsibility aside from 'we're the government and we can do whatever we want'.

You are referencing sovereign immunity? *Pssst, it is part of the Constitution* (I know the Constitution is hated by L. Neil Smith and the INGOtarians but state sovereign immunity is part of the Constitution).

Another enormous philosophical question best addressed at the legislature.

 

[rambone]

The only perversion here is the Rule of Man.

Seriously Freeman, WHO is in danger of being ruled here? There is no monarch in the situation. Owning property and animals is not tyranny or whatever you believe. Its Individual Rights 101.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Seriously Freeman, WHO is in danger of being ruled here?

The Rule of Man endangers us all, this is why totalitarians love it so.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

I reserve the right to keep whatever animal(s) I desire that I may purchase or capture.

LOLBRBFBI

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Behold the Rule of Man.

 

[9mmfan]

They have to justify SWAT teams somehow. Morons