Im stuck on Muzzy mx3, I tried expandables when they first came out, and that combined with aluminum arrows cost me a nice doe that I put a good hit on. I shot her quartering away behind the left shoulder, arrow imbedded in the opposite shoulder (from what I could tell). She took off with about 10 inches of arrow sticking out of her, which broke off (found it while tracking her) with the retainer band from the BH on it. after I found the back half of the arrow the blood trail absolutely stopped and she was lost. After that I went to carbon arrows and back to my trusty 3-blade Muzzys. Same bow, same draw weight the next year took two very similar shots, both passed through one ran about 30 yards the other went about 100 yards and both were recovered. I trailed the original doe (after the longest 3 hour wait EVER) a good 1/2 mile before finding the back half of the arrow and losing the blood. Its kind of wierd that I remember more detail about the 2 deer that I have lost than the 15+ deer I have tagged. The other deer I "lost" was actually stolen, but thats a story for a different thread.