Anybody with a Kel-Tec PF9?

[avengedXT]

I know, I know... There's many owners out there.

My question is, is there an INGO member that would be willing to meet to let me give your PF9 a couple shots? I want to get a feel for how much muzzle flip there is in it. I want to compare it along side my Kahr PM9. Basically trying to see if my wife is going to adopt a $600-$700 gun or a $270 gun.

Anyone? I'm free Wednesday - Saturday every week, will meet at a local range. You can shoot my PM9 if you would like to get a feel for the kind of recoil it has to offer as well!



Moderators - Sorry if there's a better thread for this, couldn't seem to see one better fit than the Handgun section itself.

 

[tonhe]

If you were closer I'd totally meet you somewhere. I love my PF9

 

[VERT]

I can answer this for you if you want, having shot both the KelTec PF9 and the Kahr PM9. Buy once, cry once, get the Kahr. Better trigger, less recoil, better construction. The PM9 is an accurate, reliable, comfortable companion. I was not impressed with the KelTec at all. Recoil made the gun difficult to manage and created a lot of malfunctions due to limp wristing. I was the only person that could shoot the gun reliably until others changed their shooting technique. In contrast everybody the shoots my friends Kahr PM9 comments how impressed they are with how it shoots.

 

[avengedXT]

Thanks for the replies. I already have the PM9, absolutely love it. Would the PF9 not even be the kind of gun that you do not go out shooting regularly, but rather learn it and carry it to depend on it with your life?

 

[VERT]

Thanks for the replies. I already have the PM9, absolutely love it. Would the PF9 not even be the kind of gun that you do not go out shooting regularly, but rather learn it and carry it to depend on it with your life?

Edit: I apologize and misread PM9 vs. PF9. The PM9 is a fantastic gun! Please take my foot out of my mouth and put everything back into proper context. I don't like the recoil of KelTec PF9, I enjoy shooting the Kahr PM9.

The statement in red is a bit of a contradiction. The gun that you carry to defend your life needs to be something that you shoot enough to feel comfortable with its reliability. The two KelTec PF9s that I have shot were not fun and both proved to be somewhat finicky about shooting technique. The PF9 is a handful to say the least.

The Kahr PM9 has a lot less recoil. Only downside is that it is a bit hard to rack the slide.

The PF9 is the kind of gun that offers a lot of value if a person is looking for a pocket sized subcompact 9mm.

 

[avengedXT]

Is the PF9 slide easier to rack than the PM9?

Right now, that's my BIGGEST concern for my wife. I would honestly not even mind if it kicked her like a mule at this point, she needs a gun she can fully function on her own. My PM9 is easy as pie to rack, as easy if not a little easier than the Glock 19 Gen3 it replaced. But she struggles with it

 

[Hammer]

I know they are not exactly the same but if you wanna try a P11 give me a shout.

 

[avengedXT]

I know they are not exactly the same but if you wanna try a P11 give me a shout.

Hmm I'll have to check those out right quick, they are cheaper than the PF9 @ BudsGunShop.com after all. Let me do some research, I might just want to try that out

Thanks!

 

[VERT]

Is the PF9 slide easier to rack than the PM9?

Right now, that's my BIGGEST concern for my wife. I would honestly not even mind if it kicked her like a mule at this point, she needs a gun she can fully function on her own. My PM9 is easy as pie to rack, as easy if not a little easier than the Glock 19 Gen3 it replaced. But she struggles with it

I personally thought it was. Only problem is that small automatics like those are going to be hard to rack. Just not a lot to grab onto. The Kahr in particular seems to have a really stiff recoil spring. Maybe that is just the gun I was shooting. All of this is very subjective though.

What concerns me is that the recoil of the KelTec seems to lead to problems with limp wristing. At least the ones I shot. As long as you held onto them they ran fine. What if she needs to shoot with one hand, or from retention?

Maybe a Glock 26? My wife has arthritis and gets along very well with a Walther PK380 which might be another viable option. Maybe look at some of the offerings from Bersa. Ruger now has the LC9. Or just give her your Kahr.

I do think the KelTec is a best value in their price range. I also think there are better guns in the market right now.

 

[Dogman]

Is the PF9 slide easier to rack than the PM9?

Right now, that's my BIGGEST concern for my wife. I would honestly not even mind if it kicked her like a mule at this point, she needs a gun she can fully function on her own. My PM9 is easy as pie to rack, as easy if not a little easier than the Glock 19 Gen3 it replaced. But she struggles with it

Having both, jmo my PM9 (5000+ rounds) is a lot easier to rack/shoots/handles a whole lot different than my PF9 (150-200 rounds). I would guess the PF9 would get easier to rack with use, but I just don't find it a comfortable gun to shoot, perhaps 50 rounds maximum at a time. The trigger pull is long enough you can have lunch while your waiting. Have you thought about having her look at a five shot 38. Load, point, shoot.

 

[henktermaat]

Love mine. Recoil isn't that bad. I shoot a few boxes in a sitting.

But then again, I'm not a lady or a girly-man.

 

[tonhe]

Love mine. Recoil isn't that bad. I shoot a few boxes in a sitting.

But then again, I'm not a lady or a girly-man.

^^^ What he said.

 

[boileralum]

Just to throw out another option -you might try the Kahr CM9. Same trigger as the PM9, slightly different construction (barrel has standard rifling vs the polygonal rifling on the PM9), and only $379 at Bud's.

 

[henktermaat]

I will be upgrading to a CM9 someday - but until then the PF-9 is fine.

 

[rugertoter]

I know they are not exactly the same but if you wanna try a P11 give me a shout.

I love my P11. I have around 800 rounds thru it without hardly any FTF or FTE. The gun runs fine. I did order the metal recoil guide rod for it to replace the polymer one it came with.

 

[piercedjp]

I have a PF9 with the hogue slip on grip and, although it is snappy, it is not unmanageable. I live in the indy area and would be willing to meet you at a range to put a few rounds through it if you are still interested.

 

[38special]

I run a computer shop about 1 mile south of Indy Trading Post. I'd be happy to meet up Wednesday or Friday for a little shooting. You can shoot my PF-9.

 

[Hornett]

I had a P-11 and I have a PF9 now.
There is no comparison.
The trigger is much heavier and longer on the P-11.
The PF9 is similar to the PM9 but the Kahr is smoother than the Kel Tec.

CM9 is an excellent suggestion.
Bob had them for $409? $419? at Plainfield Shooting Supplies last time I was there

 

[avengedXT]

Wow! Thanks for all the input here guys .

At this time I do think I'm going to move thoughts away from the Kel-Tec. I like the idea of giving the wife a CM9. It basically is a PM9, just less milling on the slide.

THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT, INGO!

 

[henktermaat]

Wow! Thanks for all the input here guys .

At this time I do think I'm going to move thoughts away from the Kel-Tec. I like the idea of giving the wife a CM9. It basically is a PM9, just less milling on the slide.

THANK YOU FOR THE INPUT, INGO!

That's probably a good choice.