The dilemma AR vs AK? If both are well kept then either one is good. If your not going to keep them in top working order then the AK. Cheap AK vs cheap AR I lean to the AR. Too many problems with cheap AK's, bolt problems, head space issues, to name a few. Cheap AR's feeding issues, poor fitting reliability to name a few. Buy yourself a good AR, and don't cheap out on it. Fire a thousand rounds thru it without cleaning. If it still works, you have a keeper. During my younger days in service our armour had a real russian AK we would take it out every time we went to the range. In order to load it the first time you had to kick start it to get the bolt working. After that it ran fine. But it was a real russian gun! You can't buy one now at a reasonable price. Looking at what I have now I have spent over $1500 for my AR's and know they are good rifles that work in all weather and decent ammo .
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AR15 VS AK47
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AR. Every day and twice on Sunday.
Comparable reliability, better ergos, better sights, better accuracy, cheaper and easier to find parts in the US, more versatile design with greater aftermarket support, easier to service on an armorer level, cheaper and easier to find ammo (and it's reloadable, not this steel-cased Berdan-primed garbage)...the list goes on.
The only reason I can think of that I'd want to own an AK is simply to have one...and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But the AR is more practical in every way.
Comparable reliability, better ergos, better sights, better accuracy, cheaper and easier to find parts in the US, more versatile design with greater aftermarket support, easier to service on an armorer level, cheaper and easier to find ammo (and it's reloadable, not this steel-cased Berdan-primed garbage)...the list goes on.
The only reason I can think of that I'd want to own an AK is simply to have one...and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But the AR is more practical in every way.
Back in the day AK was just cheaper to buy and shoot, but these days...
I think the AK platform is more of a sensory enjoyment than an AR.
The ballistic behaviors of the 7.62x39 round are a little worse than the 5.56 at distance, but if you want to shoot through a wall, AK will be a bit more effective up close.
To buy, I would say AR just because the abundance of parts and pieces. Also, doomsday folks would point out there will be a lot of AR mags and ammo lying around if we ever melt down.
I think the AK platform is more of a sensory enjoyment than an AR.
The ballistic behaviors of the 7.62x39 round are a little worse than the 5.56 at distance, but if you want to shoot through a wall, AK will be a bit more effective up close.
To buy, I would say AR just because the abundance of parts and pieces. Also, doomsday folks would point out there will be a lot of AR mags and ammo lying around if we ever melt down.
It makes me laugh every time I read ARs are such a "delicate" rifle. Always needing special treatment or they'll shut down and go to their room to pout. Not True by any stretch.
I own four. 2 purchased off the shelf, 2 builds. My first AR was a Colt LE6920 in 2013. I've run every type of ammo you can think of through it (steel case, cheap crap, match grade, expensive stuff, 40 grain VMax to 77 grain Buffalo Bore) and it has always performed as expected- perfectly. I clean it periodically but not religiously. I do keep it lubed but not overly so.
I've worked on a couple AKs. Not impressed. A cheaply made rifle with loose tolerances. Sure they work. They were manufactured as an inexpensive rifle with simple, cheaply produced parts. That was/is the criteria. Not aesthetics, not accuracy, not elegance of parts or action, simply a rifle that doesn't cost much to produce and runs dependably. And they do. That criterion has made them the biggest selling rifle in history. Meh.
Not that I'm hating on AKs. The biggest selling rifle in the world. They obviously work well.
Just not my thing.
If ARs sucked they wouldn't be the biggest selling rifle in America.
If AKs sucked they wouldn't be the biggest selling rifle in history.
All depends on what you want or need from a rifle.
I own four. 2 purchased off the shelf, 2 builds. My first AR was a Colt LE6920 in 2013. I've run every type of ammo you can think of through it (steel case, cheap crap, match grade, expensive stuff, 40 grain VMax to 77 grain Buffalo Bore) and it has always performed as expected- perfectly. I clean it periodically but not religiously. I do keep it lubed but not overly so.
I've worked on a couple AKs. Not impressed. A cheaply made rifle with loose tolerances. Sure they work. They were manufactured as an inexpensive rifle with simple, cheaply produced parts. That was/is the criteria. Not aesthetics, not accuracy, not elegance of parts or action, simply a rifle that doesn't cost much to produce and runs dependably. And they do. That criterion has made them the biggest selling rifle in history. Meh.
Not that I'm hating on AKs. The biggest selling rifle in the world. They obviously work well.
Just not my thing.
If ARs sucked they wouldn't be the biggest selling rifle in America.
If AKs sucked they wouldn't be the biggest selling rifle in history.
All depends on what you want or need from a rifle.
Start by doing your homework, OP. INGO is but a chapter, or more likely a footnote, in a book you need to read. "AR" does not equal all ARs. "AK" does not equal all AKs. There are a lot of generalities and inaccuracies already stated in these 1.5 pages of thread. If my username and avatar didn't give it away, I am biased. As is everyone here. I vote AK all the way, 100% of the time but that's just me. Ask yourself a few questions:
Then buy both and see which one reproduces like a rabbit. And if it isn't the AK, sell it to me. As long as it's not American-made.
- Why do I want this gun?
- What will be this gun's primary role? Its secondary?
- What is my budget?
- Do I want to customize the gun? If so, how?
- Am I concerned about long-term ammo, magazine, and accessory supply, demand, and price?
- Am I concerned about long-term collectibility and value?
- Am I concerned about reliability, both short and long term?
Then buy both and see which one reproduces like a rabbit. And if it isn't the AK, sell it to me. As long as it's not American-made.
Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
To be a special snow flake at the range, right?
For a buck a thread how many INGO dollars would you have for "I want a _______ but Not an AR" threads?
AKs are starting to get more expensive than ARs, which wasn't the case a decade ago. Working on ARs only require an armorer's wrench and magwell vice grip for most jobs, while working on AKs is a little more involved. I couldn't even put a clamp mount on mine because the rivet configuration was incorrect. Personally if I was going to have a serious 7.62x39 rifle, I would probably invest in an ACE Galil.
How about shooting through walls and distance? AR-10! (Mostly joking, semi serious)
That's because they're more interested in Colt SP1's, Colt Gold Cups, Marlin 336's and Remington 870 Wingmasters
sweet deal!! thank you
love that lol
well I've also seen the mud test done differently where both guns get the same amount of mud inside the chamber and in the magazine and ak get apron a 75% fire rate and ar gets like a 50%
amazing thank you for the info ill definitely look into them, would you say there's a huge difference in quality?
Well with that analogy you're saying the ak is more powerful, I personally love the look of it better and I'm sure my friends would love to play with the bigger toy lol
That looks sweet hahaha
Potentially. Most PSA AKs are fine but there's still some that are a miss. Guys still have issues at times. If you can shoot an AK and get a feel for it during an afternoon of a couple hundred rounds then you can decide whether it's something you like well enough to own and keep. If you can't find someone to let you shoot theirs or a rental range then the cheaper PSA wouldn't hurt so much if you don't care for it much and want to sell it. But if an AK is something that you'll love then skip the American made stuff and save your pennies and start with a Zastava M70 at the $950 price point.
