Areas in Indiana we cannot carry?

[gregr]

Forgot to add State Historic Sites, which are now under the State Museum policies (were under DNR several years ago). So, places like the TC Steele Historic Site. I need to review the current IAC, because the section they reverence maye have changed or even been repealed.

Is it worth distinguishing IC, IAC, and Policy? Will certainly muddy the waters, but the penalties vary widely. Everything from a felony to a "tsk, tsk".

It also appears that individual offices of State agencies (unlike local government) can still adopt whatever policy they want. I hear that several State Unemployment Offices have posted "gun buster" signs, even though there is no IC or IAC that covers them.

Sounds like there are plenty of place to NOT carry. Also sounds as though, it requires thorough research and understanding to be certain we don`t land ourselves in big trouble.

 

[Thegeek]

List for civilians and non-security personnel that I've gleaned from the IC:

Casino gambling floors (Casino must provide a secure location while gambling), Race Track Property, USPS inside their building, Corp of Engineer facilities (including the Falls of the Ohio State Park in Jeffersonville), Hospitals that have a Secured wing for housing those under LEO control, (I believe) buildings housing inmates (i.e. - jails, court houses, etc...), school property (K-12 owned or rented for school functions) while outside your vehicle, a school bus (K-12), State Fair Grounds (during State Fair ONLY), and a long list of "Indiana government center campuses", reminded to mention Beyond Airport Security points... I'm also reminded to mention Licensed Daycare Centers, Head Start, and Child Development Centers, which includes all properties owned / adjacent to the School buildings. (Thanks for the help, eldirector)

Banks, Credit Unions, College campus, and other businesses are not illegal for us to carry, but they may not allow us entry / ask us to leave + those working / attending several College campuses have in their handbooks that it is against their policy to poses (carry or otherwise) while on campus property.

Kirk - Please correct me if / where I'm mistaken, but I believe this is at least a good start!

Better check that one. Illegal to possess on postal service property. So if you drive across their parking lot just to drop a letter at the drive through box, you're committing a federal crime.

 

[gregr]

Better check that one. Illegal to possess on postal service property. So if you drive across their parking lot just to drop a letter at the drive through box, you're committing a federal crime.

That`s just ridiculous...

 

[eldirector]

That`s just ridiculous...

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But sadly true...
There Seems To Be Some Confusion About Whether You Can Carry In The Post Office Parking Lot ? Concealed Nation

 

[Thegeek]

That`s just ridiculous...

Especially when you consider that the USPS is technically not government owned. It just doesn't make sense that the US Government requires you to go to the post office for certain things and denies your rights at the same time. There's something just inherently wrong with that.

 

[gregr]

Especially when you consider that the USPS is technically not government owned. It just doesn't make sense that the US Government requires you to go to the post office for certain things and denies your rights at the same time. There's something just inherently wrong with that.

 

[KLB]

Especially when you consider that the USPS is technically not government owned. It just doesn't make sense that the US Government requires you to go to the post office for certain things and denies your rights at the same time. There's something just inherently wrong with that.

We all know that the implementation of that law stops anyone from ever going postal at the post office again.

 

[Xenokilla]

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But sadly true...
There Seems To Be Some Confusion About Whether You Can Carry In The Post Office Parking Lot ? Concealed Nation

I was under the impression that the specific ruling was only that parking lot and not all parking lots nation wide due to the low level of the court that made the ruling.

 

[Thegeek]

We all know that the implementation of that law stops anyone from ever going postal at the post office again.

You forgot the purple....

I was under the impression that the specific ruling was only that parking lot and not all parking lots nation wide due to the low level of the court that made the ruling.

You've got that backwards. The suit was against the federal ban, which that court decided to uphold. If they would have decided in favor of the plaintiff, then the ruling may have been limited to that jurisdiction/location.

 

[Xenokilla]

You forgot the purple....


You've got that backwards. The suit was against the federal ban, which that court decided to uphold. If they would have decided in favor of the plaintiff, then the ruling may have been limited to that jurisdiction/location.

ahh my bad, i have a PO box and visit the post office weekly, so i always leave my ccw in the car and its annoying.

 

[Fargo]

You forgot the purple....


You've got that backwards. The suit was against the federal ban, which that court decided to uphold. If they would have decided in favor of the plaintiff, then the ruling may have been limited to that jurisdiction/location.

The binding nature of a ruling is always limited to the jurisdiction of the court making the ruling. Generally, rulings of trial courts don't bind beyond the case in question. I don't remember if that ruling was trial or appellate.

 

[TheARfan]

Banks and credit unions are fine. Post office is a no-go as well as libraries and schools to name a couple other places.

 

[KLB]

You forgot the purple....

I didn't think it actually needed it

 

[eldirector]

Banks and credit unions are fine. Post office is a no-go as well as libraries and schools to name a couple other places.

Libraries? Why? Not by IC or Federal law.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Ok, I've been researching and I'm more confused. Is a church with a licensed school (appears with number on eldirector's link) a school for purposes of handgun carry vice a church?

 

[eldirector]

Ok, I've been researching and I'm more confused. Is a church with a licensed school (appears with number on eldirector's link) a school for purposes of handgun carry vice a church?

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Schools are always schools. Doesn't matter if they are also something else. Doesn't matter the time of day, day of week, in session, out of session, etc... Heck, doesn't even matter if there are students. For example, it could be a maintenance shed on an otherwise empty piece of property. Just has to be a piece of property rented or owned by a "school", with a structure on it.

So, a church with a school is a "school" according to IC. Always.

 

[AndersonIN]

Banks and credit unions are fine. Post office is a no-go as well as libraries and schools to name a couple other places.

OC on a regular basis at our library in Anderson in front of the policeman on duty guard duty there and have never been mentioned even during conversations with him! You might want to check that one!

 

[KellyinAvon]

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Schools are always schools. Doesn't matter if they are also something else. Doesn't matter the time of day, day of week, in session, out of session, etc... Heck, doesn't even matter if there are students. For example, it could be a maintenance shed on an otherwise empty piece of property. Just has to be a piece of property rented or owned by a "school", with a structure on it.

So, a church with a school is a "school" according to IC. Always.

Thank you!

 

[AndersonIN]

Thank you!

But don't forget if you can get permission (I would suggest written permission) you could still legally carry there!

 

[HoughMade]

The binding nature of a ruling is always limited to the jurisdiction of the court making the ruling. Generally, rulings of trial courts don't bind beyond the case in question. I don't remember if that ruling was trial or appellate.

Agreed, but until there is a binding decision with the opposite holding, prudence would dictate assuming the ban is valid and governing yourself accordingly.