ATF just announced they consider FRT to be Machine Guns

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I was the same way with redheads. Now I've had one for almost 18 years!

A blow up red head?

 

[wingrider1800]

A blow up red head?

I checked the classies but couldn't find one.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

A blow up red head?

If you mean inflatable, no. But she has been known to blow up!

You don't want to be nearby when that happens...

 

[Angrysauce]

As much as I dislike them, their definition of a machine gun has always included the ability to fire multiple rounds with a single pull of the trigger. Clearly, binary triggers and bumpstocks don't fit that definition. Does the Rare Breed trigger allow that? Or is it just another binary trigger? That was my question. In other words, if you pull the Rare Breed trigger back and hold it, does the gun continue to fire without releasing it? If not, then it's not a "machine gun".

If you squeeze the trigger and pin it to the rear it actually prevents the bolt from going into battery. You release the trigger it goes home with no bang. One pull, one shot.

 

[Angrysauce]

I think the difference hinges on the fact that with binary triggers, the shooter has to manipulate his/her trigger finger to fire and release the trigger between shots. With a Rare Breed FRT, the trigger mechanism forces the shooter’s finger to “release” the trigger before firing again.

By that logic, trigger slap means anything is a machinegun.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

By that logic, trigger slap means anything is a machinegun.

Yeah.

 

[Angrysauce]

Yeah.

Well boys, hand in your AKs. Shame I destroyed my FRT, but the the law is the law. GOBBLESS BAK DA BLU.

 

[BigRed]

Spotted one of those atf guys today....

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

MrGunsAndGear does a nice job walking through the ATF‘s letter.

 

[BJHay]

10 years in the slammer for your binary trigger.
The same rule is coming for pistol braces later this summer.

I'm on board with the Defund the Police movement so long as it only applies to the ATF.

 

[Expat]

Remember when Trump's ATF did this with bump stocks and the INGO said, well no one needed those anyway.

 

[cg21]

Remember when Trump's ATF did this with bump stocks and the INGO said, well no one needed those anyway.

“…When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.…”

 

[KLB]

Remember when Trump's ATF did this with bump stocks and the INGO said, well no one needed those anyway.

Some of INGO.....

 

[Onebad06vtx]

Joe Bidenlester- Most votes everrrrrrrrrrrrr
When they cheat you,they take away your rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some here voted for this

 

[Cameramonkey]

Some of INGO.....

And some of us thought they were utterly ridiculous but still not worthy of a ban.

 

[BigRed]

Remember when Trump's ATF did this with bump stocks and the INGO said, well no one needed those anyway.

I read on INGO bump stocks are just range toys.

 

[BigRed]

“…When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.…”

EXACTLY.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I read on INGO bump stocks are just range toys.

They are. And nothing wrong with a range toy.

 

[TrueSeanamus]

I read on INGO bump stocks are just range toys.

They are just range toys. They decrease your accuracy and just turn money into noise.

They still aren’t machine guns and banning them is an infringement on our rights.

 

[KLB]

They are just range toys. They decrease your accuracy and just turn money into noise.

They still aren’t machine guns and banning them is an infringement on our rights.

You forgot apparently tend to cause a lot of jams.