Since nobody pointed it out, unless I missed it, the oldest firearm manufacture in the world is "Beretta". Very historic and highly respected name.
As to recoil, very little as they are heavy enough, and robust enough, and have a long recoil spring that there really is very little perceived recoil.
I had a 92FS, and sold it to get my 96FS Inox. I let my 65 year old, 5'4" mother, who had never shot a firearm in her life, fire the 96 and she had no problems handling it. The full size frames of the 92s and 96s, and the heavy actions absorb a lot of energy.I have average hands, have held one but never fired. Is there much recoil?
.....and then sticks .39 cent plastic guide rods in them and won't sell many of their products in the USA... Seriously though, I love Beretta but those two issues bug the crap out of me.Very fine weapon with alot of aftermarket support and factory support as well. Parts and accessories are plentifull. You can pick up a nice used one for around $400. Beretta makes high quality firearms.
They're fantastic pistols; if a bit large.
The combo of the pistol + carbine is a good idea, too. After purchase, hunt around to find a source for inexpensive surplus mags and buy several.
-J-
From my experience and anecdotes FROM the sand box, the sand will shred the plastic. It grinds it apart like sandpaper. My biggest problem is that it flexes reducing accuracy.Actually that plastic guide rod has proved to be an excellent choice in pistols that are used in The Sand Box. It is amazing what they can do with plastic these days.
And yes, there are a few Berettas sold in Europe that they will not sell here. They really don't seem to pay attention to what the customer wants when it comes to the 92 series, like an Inox compact!
I've got to disagree with you on this one. I had an accurized Beretta 92FS Brigadier built by a well-known gunsmith, Tony Kidd. It was built for bullseye pistol shooting, specifically CMP Excellence-In-Competition matches. When he built the gun, he left the plastic guide rod in place. That gun will shoot a 2" ten shot group from the Ransom Rest at 50 yards.From my experience and anecdotes FROM the sand box, the sand will shred the plastic. It grinds it apart like sandpaper. My biggest problem is that it flexes reducing accuracy.