Can One Truly Own Property?

[Ingomike]

How can they take your house without LEO and the courts?

With enough people at some point they could take anyones house or land, that government security (LEO) and adjudicators (courts) work in our favor now, what happens when they do not?

 

[Ingomike]

I am guessing this may be how the old saying " Possession is nine tenths of the law" came into play ........
Though not a legal term , but am sure carries some weight . Squatters for example .

As long as one can defend that ownership, or government does it for them. Folks today have grown accustomed to owning multiple properties and they generally are safe. What happens when they are not?

 

[Ingomike]

During the covid crisis I had squatters claim some of my ground, but without a survey I could not have them removed. Covid delayed the survey so I had to put up with them until I could get that done. The day after the stakes were driven, they were gone.

Surprised you did not have a lengthy eviction case too…

 

[Ingomike]

Not going "down the tax rabbit hole" even though you think you have land, if the state decides they need it for better use, kiss it good-bye. I watched many homes get taken by Hamilton County in the name of making 146th Street a grand boulevard. I personally lost almost 75 feet of my back yard and was told to either take the cash offer, which my real estate friend told me was reasonable, or lose it to eminent domain. Don't remember the exact ruling but in Connecticut versus the land owner, the court ruled that the state has every right to remove you from your land "for the greater good".

Welcome to something our founder feared.

Yep, the founders put that in the constitution…

 

[Nazgul]

My father in law owned 40 acres, we lived with him until our house was finished. One of his sons bought the property after he passed. There was an old county road that runs through the center of the whole place, there are 2 other houses on the access road. It had been abandoned in the mid 1940's. There are trees almost 2' in diameter growing in the road now.
Had a man walk out of his woods one day and say he bought the property on the hill above the farm and was going to get the county to reopen the road.

My BIL had to go to hearings with the county to find out what was going to happen. Turns out they needed 20' on each side of the road which would have included 3 houses with barns/garages/outbuildings, would also need a bridge built to cross a creek. The guy said he would pay for all that. Luckily the county did not want anything to do with it. BIL was able to get permanent possession after all this.

Just thought it was weird after all that time.

Don

 

[Leo]

Two friends in my life owned and lost real property, free and clear and kept the tax payment up.

The town of Schereville wanted the first ones property for the town building. They took it from him. They did pay something for it, but he did not want to sell. The second man was the same deal, house and family owned land. Subaru wanted the land. They even made the paper by chaining themselves to a tree in front of the house. The land Subaru grabbed was declared an "international trade zone", and not even US soil anymore. The section on highway 38 infront of it was called the Bataan memorial highway, to honor those who were cruelly marched to death by the japanese. Those signs were removed long ago.

Going back to 1917, Roosevelt outlawed gold and people turned it in. That law stayed until Nixon.

You can really only own what is in your mind. Everything else is only by civilized cooperation.

 

[Ingomike]

You can really only own what is in your mind. Everything else is only by civilized cooperation.

This!

 

[Pepi]

I'll never own mine with the taxes I pay

 

[Leadeye]

Surprised you did not have a lengthy eviction case too…

It was a rat smart deal, the squatter with the trailer had it on my ground but claimed it was on a relatives ground next door. With no line survey I could not convince the law otherwise so I had to pay for the survey. The trailer was gone the night after the survey was complete, but he was able to stay there for a few months.

 

[stocknup]

You can really only own what is in your mind. Everything else is only by civilized cooperation.

and we seem to be running out of Civility these days .............

 

[edporch]

Can one truly own property? Or is it really just permission? (Not even going down the tax rabbit hole.). If everyone else wants your property and joins to take it how are you going to keep it? If someone tries to take my house I have LEO, courts, etc. What if they will not help me? Am I limited by what I can personally defend?

Just how secure are ownership rights in even the US? Who secures ownership rights beyond what one can personally defend?

Allodial title?
Don't think it's allowed though.

 

[DragonGunner]

The US government didn’t see Indians owning the land. They sure ain’t going to see us owning it either. You can only rent it.

 

[manifest destiny]

Can one truly own property? No.

 

[Magyars]

More theft.....S.O.B.s

(Sales) Taxation is Theft | SHTF Plan

A group of House Republicans is supporting legislation that would replace federal income, payroll, estate, and gift taxes with a 30 percent national sales tax. The bill also eliminates the Internal Revenue Service, giving states the responsibility to collect the sales tax and send the revenue to DC.

www.shtfplan.com

 

[BehindBlueI's]

You can't truly own anything. You can be the care taker for awhile at best. Perhaps not in line with the motivation behind or tone of the thread, but your mortality insures this to be the case.

 

[DragonGunner]

More theft.....S.O.B.s

(Sales) Taxation is Theft | SHTF Plan

A group of House Republicans is supporting legislation that would replace federal income, payroll, estate, and gift taxes with a 30 percent national sales tax. The bill also eliminates the Internal Revenue Service, giving states the responsibility to collect the sales tax and send the revenue to DC.

www.shtfplan.com

Only 30%…. Then it goes up how much higher. Although I like the thought of no IRS this in no way going to help poor people. It’s the equal sharing of misery, and that’s what Socialism is. How about getting rid of IRS and lower taxes to 2% fixed. Government doesn’t have enough $$$ is a good thing…. Never happen.

 

[blain]

The government will allow you to own one piece of property.

 

[Bugzilla]

You can really only own what is in your mind. Everything else is only by civilized cooperation.

And the woke want to take that!

 

[jamil]

My old house sat off a highway the state decided to widen. The road would have went through our home. They offered to move us to a different city and used properties in a different county than ours to estimate our homes value because they couldn’t find anything with our acreage in the area. Our property is in a wealthy area the similar properties used were not. We appealed to the state multiple times to the point they said if we didn’t take their offer they would put money into an account with our name and we would be evicted.

So no, it’s my opinion we never truly own our property

At least it wasn’t for a ****ing bike path.

 

[KLB]

The government will allow you to own one piece of property.

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Only until they decide they want it for something else.