Carry in police stations

[Excalibur]

So basically if I am going to the county sheriff's department that isn't connected to the county jail or my local PD's front desk area or general offices, it's ok to carry my gun in there.

 

[9mmfan]

I've been in the public areas of Mishawaka and South Bends police departments while carrying. SB didn't even give me any !&it.

 

[dudley0]

Local govts can prohibit firearms in buildings. They have to have a metal detector manned by a LEO to do so. BUT and this is a big but, they can't prohibit handguns if the carrier has a LTCH.

Interesting. Would have saved me a lot of trips back and forth. I wonder if the guy manning the machine was aware. Would have tied me up longer trying to prove that I was legal to do it.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I don't believe holding cells count as penal facilities but I would have to check the case law. Keep in mind, there is more to the trafficking with an inmate statute than what I posted and it has been amended several times in the last 10 years.

The case I was referring to was at least 15 yrs ago, maybe 20. iirc The guy's either Mom or GF was sitting by the jury box which is where they had the inmates sitting and was flipping them cigarettes when they thought no one was looking.

Did a quick scan of the caselaw, can't find anything even claiming that a holding cell at a PD etc. is a penal facility. All of the cases deal either with jails or prisons or with halfway house type facilities.

Thanks much, halfway houses I believe would fall under the community corrections (IC 4-13.5) referred to in the penal facility definition.

Local govts can prohibit firearms in buildings. They have to have a metal detector manned by a LEO to do so. BUT and this is a big but, they can't prohibit handguns if the carrier has a LTCH.

Interesting. Would have saved me a lot of trips back and forth. I wonder if the guy manning the machine was aware. Would have tied me up longer trying to prove that I was legal to do it.

I should have been a bit more clear. That only applies to buildings that they can't legally completely ban, such as courthouse, hospital with a secure correctional wing, etc. Which from what I can find wouldn't have applied in your case. Or places prohibited under state law.

 

[Fargo]

So basically if I am going to the county sheriff's department that isn't connected to the county jail or my local PD's front desk area or general offices, it's ok to carry my gun in there.

Many local PDs have city courtrooms in them. If so, those may be a no go if there is an ordinance etc.

 

[eatsnopaste]

I love how this has gone from "can I carry in a police station?" to "cops don't know ****!" Although I'm not surprised.



and it is about another state...

 

[oldpink]

It's good to know that the two county buildings that I had long assumed were off limits for non-LEO to carry in -- jails or other locations that house prisoners or those charged with a crime, and (usually, but not always) courthouses -- are normally the ones that don't allow.
For once, intuition (mostly, as in individualized policies with courthouses) coincides with the law.

 

[Fargo]

It's good to know that the two county buildings that I had long assumed were off limits for non-LEO to carry in -- jails or other locations that house prisoners or those charged with a crime, and (usually, but not always) courthouses -- are normally the ones that don't allow.
For once, intuition (mostly, as in individualized policies with courthouses) coincides with the law.

LEOs don't really get to carry in the jail either. They are generally required to lock up their weapons in the non secure area before being buzzed in.

 

[oldpink]

LEOs don't really get to carry in the jail either. They are generally required to lock up their weapons in the non secure area before being buzzed in.

Oops, yeah, you're right.
I've actually seen that when working in some jails, servicing their cameras and fire alarms.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

LEOs don't really get to carry in the jail either. They are generally required to lock up their weapons in the non secure area before being buzzed in.

We don't get to carry in the secure detention area of hospitals either.

 

[jettlag]

it's most likely OK, but for God's sake DONOT walk into a POST OFFICE armed,

 

[rosejm]

And i guess I should add to my 'no forehead or low-ready' carry admonishment...

Don't wear masks and tacti-cool gear when you go
Michigan open carry stunt backfires - CNN.com

 

[ATM]

Are we allowed to carry into a police station?

Consider framing it differently when asking questions of this nature for those readers who may not understand how laws work:

Are we prohibited from carrying into a police station?

 

[Excalibur]

Ok, I'll choose my wording better.

Is there against the law to carry your gun, concealed or other wise inside a police station?

 

[Denny347]

Ok, I'll choose my wording better.

Is there against the law to carry your gun, concealed or other wise inside a police station?

Maybe

 

[Excalibur]

There's no maybe with the law. You are either legally allowed to or it is illegal to do so...there can't be a grey area

 

[Fargo]

There is nothing illegal about carrying into a police station because it is a police station.

However, if the building houses other institutions which are prohibited places, such as some court rooms etc., it may then be illegal to carry into that police station.

 

[HoughMade]

There's no maybe with the law. You are either legally allowed to or it is illegal to do so...there can't be a grey area

That's funny.

It depends.

 

[EPeter213]

There's no maybe with the law. You are either legally allowed to or it is illegal to do so...there can't be a grey area

The law is full of maybe.
It is illegal to shoot someone... Except in self defense... Or enemy combatants in time of war... Or in defense of another...

No handguns signs don't carry the weight of law in Indiana... Unless the building contains a courthouse ...

and so on...