"Constitutional " carry question.

[Jaybird1980]

Hey I think it's great. But it was certainly atypical and unusual when you looked at what other states were doing. Like I mentioned above, we had a better permit system in that regard

There are other states that don't have a distinction.

Just because other states are restrictive shouldn't make it weird when a state chooses freedom to decide for yourself.

 

[xwing]

Is there a defined list of items that make you prohibited? Or is this up to the whim of somebody?

35-47-2-1.5
(1) A person convicted of a federal or state offense punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding one (1) year.

(2) A fugitive from justice.

(3) An alien.

(4) A person convicted of:

(A) a crime of domestic violence (IC 35-31.5-2-78);

(B) domestic battery (IC 35-42-2-1.3); or

(C) criminal stalking (IC 35-45-10-5).

(5) A person restrained by an order of protection issued under IC 34-26-5.

(6) A person under indictment.

(7) A person who has been:

(A) adjudicated dangerous under IC 35-47-14-6;

(B) adjudicated a mental defective; or

(C) committed to a mental institution.

(8) A person dishonorably discharged from:

(A) military service; or

(B) the National Guard.

(9) A person who renounces the person's United States citizenship in the manner described in 8 U.S.C. 1481.

(10) A person who is less than:

(A) eighteen (18) years of age; or

(B) twenty-three (23) years of age and has an adjudication as a delinquent child for an act described by IC 35-47-4-5;

unless authorized under IC 35-47-10.

 

[KellyinAvon]

There are a lot of different gun laws out there from State to State. There were a lot of States that had Constitutional Open Carry, but required a permit for concealed carry (Kentucky was one prior to adopting ConC.)

Good news is after 1 Jan 2023 we'll be able to drive from Indy to the Florida line without a handgun license.

 

[DadSmith]

35-47-2-1.5
(1) A person convicted of a federal or state offense punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding one (1) year.

(2) A fugitive from justice.

(3) Bugzilla

FIFY

 

[Bugzilla]

FIFY

Ouch, that hurt! Really kut to the bone!

 

[DadSmith]

Ouch, that hurt! Really kut to the bone!

It was meant as a joke buddy. Nothing more.

 

[Bugzilla]

It was meant as a joke buddy. Nothing more.

Oh I know. Was a good one too!

 

[MinuteManMike]

I wonder if all the LEOs in the state got the memo about legal open carry yet.

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

I wonder if all the LEOs in the state got the memo about legal open carry yet.

Open carry was already legal. They shouldn't need a memo.

 

[gregr]

There are a lot of different gun laws out there from State to State. There were a lot of States that had Constitutional Open Carry, but required a permit for concealed carry (Kentucky was one prior to adopting ConC.)

Good news is after 1 Jan 2023 we'll be able to drive from Indy to the Florida line without a handgun license.

Where have we had to pass through that we weren`t covered by a reciprocity agreement? We`ve had reciprocity with states from here to Florida for some time.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/in-gun-laws/#recRestricted

 

[HoughMade]

35-47-2-1.5
(1) A person convicted of a federal or state offense punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding one (1) year.

(2) A fugitive from justice.

(3) An alien.

(4) A person convicted of:

(A) a crime of domestic violence (IC 35-31.5-2-78);

(B) domestic battery (IC 35-42-2-1.3); or

(C) criminal stalking (IC 35-45-10-5).

(5) A person restrained by an order of protection issued under IC 34-26-5.

(6) A person under indictment.

(7) A person who has been:

(A) adjudicated dangerous under IC 35-47-14-6;

(B) adjudicated a mental defective; or

(C) committed to a mental institution.

(8) A person dishonorably discharged from:

(A) military service; or

(B) the National Guard.

(9) A person who renounces the person's United States citizenship in the manner described in 8 U.S.C. 1481.

(10) A person who is less than:

(A) eighteen (18) years of age; or

(B) twenty-three (23) years of age and has an adjudication as a delinquent child for an act described by IC 35-47-4-5;

unless authorized under IC 35-47-10.

Re: #1 above- point of clarification. Note it says "punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding one (1) year." This means that the actual sentence is irrelevant. The sentence could have had no jail time, but if the crime committed, under the applicable statute, could have been punished by a sentence of over 1 year, you are not a "proper person".

 

[mmpsteve]

Where have we had to pass through that we weren`t covered by a reciprocity agreement? We`ve had reciprocity with states from here to Florida for some time.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/in-gun-laws/#recRestricted

OK, so I thought the CC law allowed non-LTCH holder, proper-persons, to possess loaded handgun in car. The site you list above is fairly current in that it shows Indiana's CC status, yet says you need LTCH to carry loaded in a car.

Am I missing something obvious, or am I just being denser than usual? From the site:

CARRY IN VEHICLE?​ Can you carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle in Indiana?

Yes, with a valid concealed carry license. Without a license, handguns must be unloaded, not readily accessible and secured in a case. [Ind. Code § 35.47.2.1]

.

 

[Cameramonkey]

OK, so I thought the CC law allowed non-LTCH holder, proper-persons, to possess loaded handgun in car. The site you list above is fairly current in that it shows Indiana's CC status, yet says you need LTCH to carry loaded in a car.

Am I missing something obvious, or am I just being denser than usual?

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Sounds like that 3rd party site is behind the curve. Its only been 26 days since the change. They just havent updated it yet.

 

[chipbennett]

Where have we had to pass through that we weren`t covered by a reciprocity agreement? We`ve had reciprocity with states from here to Florida for some time.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/in-gun-laws/#recRestricted

Reciprocity applies to licenses. I believe @KellyinAvon was referring to carry without a license.

 

[chipbennett]

It depends on who you ask. LEO said no, Relford said yes. We will see in time.

Relford posted Dicken's (redacted) LTCH. So, yes; it is confirmed that Dicken has an LTCH.

 

[chipbennett]

So Indiana recently passed and (now) enacted a law stating an Indiana resident can carry w/o a "pink card".
Can the piece be concealed? Must it be "open carried" Rifle? Pistol? Shotgun? Thanks in advance.

Not dragging OP, but I really wonder why Indiana's carry laws were and are still so misunderstood? Indiana's permit is "License to Carry Handgun" (LTCH), with nothing in the statutes or in the license requirements specifying manner of carry. When I lived in Ohio, the permit was "Concealed Handgun License" (or maybe "Concealed Weapon License"? - and it's changed again since then). When I lived in Missouri, the permit was "Concealed Carry Permit". (I think. It's been many years, in both cases.)

Maybe it's because of the casual/improper use of the term "open carry" to mean either "opposite of concealed carry" or "permitless carry" (which are not interchangeable, but used in this way, confuses the concepts as being interchangeable)?

 

[Jaybird1980]

Sounds like that 3rd party site is behind the curve. Its only been 26 days since the change. They just havent updated it yet.

Well that and the fact that we don't have a "concealed carry license"

 

[Trapper Jim]

Not dragging OP, but I really wonder why Indiana's carry laws were and are still so misunderstood? Indiana's permit is "License to Carry Handgun" (LTCH), with nothing in the statutes or in the license requirements specifying manner of carry. When I lived in Ohio, the permit was "Concealed Handgun License" (or maybe "Concealed Weapon License"? - and it's changed again since then). When I lived in Missouri, the permit was "Concealed Carry Permit". (I think. It's been many years, in both cases.)

Maybe it's because of the casual/improper use of the term "open carry" to mean either "opposite of concealed carry" or "permitless carry" (which are not interchangeable, but used in this way, confuses the concepts as being interchangeable)?

Same reason magazines are thought to be clips. Education.

 

[MinuteManMike]

Open carry was already legal. They shouldn't need a memo.

Well, considering the stupid encounters that certain ignorant LEOs initiated with people on this site....

Yes, they needed and probably still need a dang memo.

 

[chipbennett]

Same reason magazines are thought to be clips. Education.

Or, perhaps, tribal knowledge?