Driving thru a college campus.

[HoughMade]

Well . . . it depends. Sorry, I cannot help it, it's like ringing the bell.

Ok, let's wargame it out:

1. If you are prohibited person (felon, domestic batterer, substance abuser, etc.), yes you are breaking the law.

2. If the "firearm" stolen, yes you are breaking the law.

3. If the firearm is an untaxed Title II weapon, yes you are breaking the law.

4. Assuming arguendo that the firearm is NOT stolen, or untaxed Title II and you are not a prohibited person, then, no, you are not breaking the law.

5. If the firearm is a handgun and you do not have a LTCH, then yes you are breaking the law.

6. If you have a LTCH, and the firearm is a handgun, then you are not breaking the law.

The confusion lies in the use of the word "school". In Indiana schools are K-12, not junior colleges, trade schools, colleges and universities. People, in the day to day living as normal, decent human beings, use "school" broadly to include Purdue or IU.

That's the level of detail that my clients refer to "excessive", right before offering to pay me 65-70% of the invoiced amount.

 

[in625shooter]

Ah, yes. I remember years ago when Massad Ayoob was pushing hard for a forerunner of that law. He said that if "we" helped all the guys with badges get the opportunity to carry nationwide, he and all of those guys would then help the rest of us get the same.

So LEOSA is a law now and . . . crickets chirping.

My axe! There's not much left . . .

Most Rank and file LE are in favor of reciprocal carry by Joe Civilians but they have not exactly had the best administration in place. Remember LEOSA was only 3 years old when the administration changed.

My intention was to just play a little Lawyer ball back at Kirk not get a flame thing going.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

WARNING HUMOR ATTEMPT*** so there Kirk

On #5 you can be off duty LEO and carry without a LTCH licence using only agency I'd under LEOSA as that does away with the need of a handgun permit/licence.

You can also carry a handgun without a LTCH if said handgun does not use a "fixed cartridge, fixed ammunition" ie a cap and ball or muzzle loading pistol. Or if said handgun was made before Jan 1 1899.

ETA here is the section of code, which brings another question or two.

IC 35-47-2-19
Application of chapter
Sec. 19. This chapter does not apply to any firearm not designed
to use fixed cartridges or fixed ammunition, or any firearm made
before January 1, 1899.

Fed code for a similar law(s) state made or remade, designed or redesigned, and explicitly do not include repros. Would a modern reproduction of a firearm made in 1898 or before qualify? And would a pistol that was sold as a cap and ball, that was remade into one that takes a fixed cartridge qualify under this exemption? For instance Cabelas sells a .45 cap and ball, they also sell a replacement cylinder that takes .45 LC... The pistol wasn't designed to take fixed ammunition, but it has been remade to do so.

 

[Tactically Fat]

AND LEOSA doesn't apply to ALL LEO.

If you're a cop working for a university police department - LEOSA may not apply to you at all.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That's the level of detail that my clients refer to "excessive", right before offering to pay me 65-70% of the invoiced amount.

Dude, I flat fee'd it. He owes me 80lbs of gunpowder at the Indy1500 this weekend.

 

[Bill B]

OK, now I'm curious. On what grounds could the university or college kick me out?

Let's assume I am
a) Joe Citizen walking through, not a student or staff or contractor (I have no legal/contractual relationship with the univ/college).
b) It is a state uni or college, like IU or Purdue, not a private one.
c) I have license to carry a handgun

Can the uni or college make me leave if it comes to light, in some legal manner, that I am carrying, because there is a uni/college policy against it?

Does this change if I am a student (i.e. it sounds as if I can be expelled for violating the school policy)?

Good question, is there no trespass situation with public-owned property?

yes, as a "joe-blow" citizen with no connection to the university you can be given a trespass warning and prohibited from coming onto university property. I know of one instance where this has happened at PUC.
As an employee, you could be fired for violating policy, given a trespass warning, and prohibited from coming onto the property. I know of an instance where this happened at PUC this week. It wasn't for firearms, but was still a violation of policy.
As a student, you could be expelled, given a trespass warning, and prohibited from coming onto the property.
State law (and I cannot find the correct IC since the rewrite) gives the board of trustees of the state schools the authority to set their own policy.

 

[rhino]

Most Rank and file LE are in favor of reciprocal carry by Joe Civilians but they have not exactly had the best administration in place. Remember LEOSA was only 3 years old when the administration changed.

My intention was to just play a little Lawyer ball back at Kirk not get a flame thing going.

Well, yeah, but I couldn't pass the opportunity!! HAHAHA!

 

[Dirtebiker]

I may or may not drive on a city street that runs right through the heart of a local university, daily. If I were to have a firearm in my possession while doing so, would I be breaking the law?

What law?

 

[voidsherpa]

OP never said if he had an LTCH, assuming bastards.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Well . . . it depends. Sorry, I cannot help it, it's like ringing the bell.

Ok, let's wargame it out:

1. If you are prohibited person (felon, domestic batterer, substance abuser, etc.), yes you are breaking the law.

2. If the "firearm" stolen, yes you are breaking the law.

3. If the firearm is an untaxed Title II weapon, yes you are breaking the law.

4. Assuming arguendo that the firearm is NOT stolen, or untaxed Title II and you are not a prohibited person, then, no, you are not breaking the law.

5. If the firearm is a handgun and you do not have a LTCH, then yes you are breaking the law.

6. If you have a LTCH, and the firearm is a handgun, then you are not breaking the law.

The confusion lies in the use of the word "school". In Indiana schools are K-12, not junior colleges, trade schools, colleges and universities. People, in the day to day living as normal, decent human beings, use "school" broadly to include Purdue or IU.

I thought you could drive with the handgun unloaded and locked in a case, without violating law, since the change that ended the prohibition on unlicensed transport?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I thought you could drive with the handgun unloaded and locked in a case, without violating law, since the change that ended the prohibition on unlicensed transport?

Add in "inaccessible" and you have a yes.

 

[1401king]

OP never said if he had an LTCH, assuming bastards.

Sorry. I was the one who was assuming. Yes-LTCH.

 

[nakinate]

You all are monsters. Cocks, not Glocks.

 

[Cameramonkey]

You all are monsters. Cocks, not Glocks.

Which in TX could be construed as a club, which is not a legal weapon to carry. (Not sure about the club laws here in IN but its still funny they got to point out the protesters could be violating the law)

http://concealedcampus.org/

 

[Bill of Rights]

You all are monsters. Cocks, not Glocks.

I've never seen any law against carrying a rooster in your car across a college campus.

 

[eldirector]

I've never seen any law against carrying a rooster in your car across a college campus.

Indy ordinance would allow you one:
Indianapolis updates zoning code to include rules for chickens, other animals - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

 

[Alamo]

yes, as a "joe-blow" ...

Thanks!

 

[Tomahawkman]

Deleted because I cant Read

 

[Bill of Rights]

Indy ordinance would allow you one:
Indianapolis updates zoning code to include rules for chickens, other animals - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

One in every crowd.

Didn't open the link. Didn't have to... point made. Good stuff.