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    melensdad

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    The more I think about this, the worse it sounds when it is called a "compound."

    Why not call it a private neighborhood or a private country club with shooting facilities? Many country clubs have multiple sporting activities available to residents/members. Most have fences around them. So have a country club with clubhouse that serves meals, group swimming pool, tennis courts, and oh, yea that 1000 yard range, multiple pistol alleys, and trap & skeet fields.

    Lots could be about 1 to 2 acres each, which is way too small for shooting unless the land is hilly enough for backstops, but 1 to 2 acres makes the lots large enough for well & septic so the cost to bring in municipal water & sewer is eliminated . . . it also eliminates the hold of the nearest town over your water supply. The shooting ranges could be "open to the public" on some days during the month to draw in some income to support the project. Trap events could be held the 1st and 3rd Wednesday nights of each month, and be open to the public, with a small fee attached. The clubhouse could serve food on the days/evenings when the place is open to the public.

    And of course if the SHTF at any point in the area surrounding the country club then the members could simply revert to a "closed club" policy and bar the public from entering.

    As for noise issues, there are some things that really need to be considered when selecting the site. First, place it adjacent to the county line (or state line) so that at least 1 border of the property abuts the next county, those people across the county line have minimal input into the zoning on your side of the county line! Second thing is to face the shooting toward said county. Third thing is to try to get enough property so that issues are minimized. Fourth thing is to make sure the property is in an unincorporated area and when it is approved by the county they understand it is a country club for multiple sports, including shooting.
     

    rhino

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    The best way to get the government (of any country other than Israel) to leave us alone would be if we pretended to be militant Muslims. It's apparently the duty of all modern governments to go out of their way to avoid offending a single Muslim when they're not busy appeasing them.

    All we need are foot-washing sinks and we're in business.
     
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    The best way to get the government (of any country other than Israel) to leave us alone would be if we pretended to be militant Muslims. It's apparently the duty of all modern governments to go out of their way to avoid offending a single Muslim when they're not busy appeasing them.

    All we need are foot-washing sinks and we're in business.

    We'll just send them a memo ahead of time to let them know we're not. Just Don't tell uncle Sam we're here.
     

    Jay

    Gotta watch us old guys.....cause if you don't....
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    Could we get tax-free status by declaring that our religion worships the US Constitution ?
     

    ryanmercer

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    UNLESS... the government doesn't have jurisdiction.
    One person with a Native American bloodline is all it would
    take to secure a "reservation" and the only guidelines would
    be laid down by "tribal council". The Feds couldn't touch it.

    Hrmm... why do you think there are reservations... becuase the Feds forced them there to begin with.
     

    ryanmercer

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    Could we get tax-free status by declaring that our religion worships the US Constitution ?

    You don't want to be non-profit. Especially as a religious organization.

    Essentially becoming a non-profit gives government control over you.


    A registered church for example is a religious organization that has registered with their state or gained 501(c)3 status from the government. In actuality, such an organization is a corporation- however they are considered to be not-for-profit, and thus tax exempt.

    A corporation is created by the US government. It is subject to all its laws, and has a responsibility to support public policy. Included in the regulations is the ban against spreading propaganda. Because propaganda can include any system of belief, that restriction can apply to any religion, including Christianity (or in this case an intentional community).

    Once a church (or any other religious entity or non-profit) has gained permission to exist, the nature of permission is that it is revocable. For virtually any reason whatsoever, the government has the right to revoke the permission and make it illegal for the “church/non-profit group" to operate. They can do this because the state is the head of the corporation.

    According to IRS codes, the non-profit organization must not conflict with public policy, teach only on subjects that it considers acceptable, and must recognize the state as its ultimate law. Anything that might influence legislation or elections is strictly forbidden.
     

    SavageEagle

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    You all have some GREAT ideas so I'll throw in mine too! LOL Ok. No non-profit religous mumbojumbo. We can be a militia of sorts. Defenders of Freedom! They can't INFRINGE a MILITIA! Necessary to the security of a FREE STATE or STATES! HAHA EAT THAT S*** ANTI-GUNNERS!

    Also, NO ONE has addressed energy concerns... Jay Leno's car museum comes to mind. solar and wind power. and what was that contraption that froze the water in the tank full of copper piping that cooled the water for air conditioning? AND if you find land near a stream, creek, river, etc. you have the advantage of a water mill or hydro power....
     

    JetGirl

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    Well Alllrrriiiiiiight!!!
    I'm putting in my order for husband criteria:

    Monday: sweaty lumberjack type or Tom Selleck
    Tuesday: Tom Selleck
    Wednesday: Power lifter/ body builder type or Tom Selleck
    Thursday: Tom Selleck
    Friday: Nathan Fillion in the Captain Tightpants outfit or Tom Selleck
    Saturday: Tom Selleck
    Sunday: Any of the above PLUS Tom Selleck

    Thank you. That is all.
     

    ryanmercer

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    Well Alllrrriiiiiiight!!!
    I'm putting in my order for husband criteria:

    Monday: sweaty lumberjack type or Tom Selleck
    Tuesday: Tom Selleck
    Wednesday: Power lifter/ body builder type or Tom Selleck
    Thursday: Tom Selleck
    Friday: Nathan Fillion in the Captain Tightpants outfit or Tom Selleck
    Saturday: Tom Selleck
    Sunday: Any of the above PLUS Tom Selleck

    Thank you. That is all.


    Damn, I'm none of those *sighs*.
     
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