House Dem: Fast-Food Wage Doubling Would Create ‘Millions of Jobs’

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    I swear to God, it seems like we are living in the movie Atlas Shrugged. The Democrat party is now die hard socialists, and they are baiting in the poor masses with their false promises. i'm sure they know they are lying, but it is what the (stupid) people want to hear. What is worse is that they will go ahead and employ terrible policies just to gain a loyal voting base, because they've learned that stupid votes count equally as intelligent votes, and there are more of them. They will bankrupt cities, states, and the entire country gladly, and then say what the ever increasing masses of poor want to hear--"it is the rich people's fault"!

    This is a constitutional republic. We're meant to be ruled by representatives who choose what is best for us. It isn't meant to be mob rule. When the stupid people make decisions based on mob rule (pure Democracy--yea the capital D is a double entendre, a pun) then they won't do what is best, they'll do what they WANT, and they will always want free stuff. The clamoring for free stuff will never end.

    If we cave to a $15/hr. minimum wage, for example, the results would be completely disastrous. All the immigrants, who are the ones begging for the raise, would surely be fired, because if you are going to pay $15/hr then you want someone who speaks perfect English and has a college education. Additionally, the cost per employee is so high that it would become cost effective to turn to more automation, and the employees then would be skilled assembly line or computer engineers basically.
     
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    spec4

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    Shaikowsky is a die hard socialist. If you ever hear her on Chicago radio you will understand what a fool she is. Her husband did time for tax evasion.
     

    terrehautian

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    It would create millions of jobs being canned! Frankly, I went to college and I have worked at my job for over 10 years (seven f/t) and I only make close to $12 and I consider that good for where I live. I said it before and I will say it again, if these workers want more money, go to school, get a skill set, and make yourself valuable to the employer to pay you that. Flipping burgers, dropping fries into a fryer and making a sandwich is not a skill set that will ever pay good.
     

    cobber

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    It would create millions of jobs in China building automated food-service machines for the US market.

    I'm not sure why that should be a selling point in the US though.

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    I will celebrate when the BurgerBot 9000 is perfected and can make any sandwich recipe to order and to perfection in barely more than the time it takes the meat to cook properly from a refrigerated state. Better food, higher quality, served faster, with less waste, no minimum wage burger flipper analogies in the job market, and a few more rungs are cut out of the ladder for up and coming teens and young adults just entering the job market.
     

    netsecurity

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    It would create millions of jobs being canned! Frankly, I went to college and I have worked at my job for over 10 years (seven f/t) and I only make close to $12 and I consider that good for where I live. I said it before and I will say it again, if these workers want more money, go to school, get a skill set, and make yourself valuable to the employer to pay you that. Flipping burgers, dropping fries into a fryer and making a sandwich is not a skill set that will ever pay good.

    Exactly. These people (especially illegal aliens) are taking jobs from teenagers, and then complaining that they are not paid like adults. Be an adult, and go learn a trade or attend school, and better yourself, and stop expecting to become an overnight success without setting yourself apart from the millions of other unskilled (teens and adult morons) in the workforce.
     

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    Of course then we have an even larger unemployed underclass that is demanding (and receiving) more welfare programs to keep them up. They also have more time and opportunity to engage in criminal activity. We have started down a path that has no good outcomes.
     

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    How in the hell did we all get so stupid.... The argument that because 42% of fast food workers are over the age of 30yo so therefore it must be made mandatory to give them higher wages has got to be one of the most ridiculous ideas I've ever heard.

    It's almost as ridiculous as career welfare benefits....

    I just finished yet another Appleseed event this weekend and as always, the message is "saving our country one good humanitarian at a time" and while I thoroughly love the idealogy... I'm glad they also teach good people marksmanship, because when the socialists spend us into economic ruin, somebody is going to have to hunt so we all don't starve. Maybe Appleseed should begin including a "fire starting by hand" portion to their training so some of us can cook what we catch.

    I mean... how else are 30% of us going to be able to keep the entire country fed in an economic collapse?
     

    terrehautian

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    At this point, I am getting to be in favor of dropping Minimum wage. Pay you for what you are worth. If all you are worth is putting together sandwiches, then you get paid accordingly. Maybe then companies will start paying good employees more and bad employees less.
     

    netsecurity

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    You know what they'd do after the burgebot 9000 started replacing the last of their unskilled socialist laborers, is that they'd put a freeze on firing, and require companies to get governmemt approval before firing anyone. Hence they'd need another arm of government to manage this, and productivity would be even further destroyed. Sound familiar? France has laws like this already on the books for years, and they even get like a bzillion vacation days a year too!

    This is what we call "European style socialism". It is what we were warned about Barack Obama before he was elected. BHO has no new ideas, he just copies off of Europe. Europe is the reason the world economy is so bad though. Until they/we stop doubling down on failed socialist policies, we are heading down a very dark path indeed. Nothing will change for the better here, so long as BHO is with us. Impeach the anti American socialist Obama now.
     

    terrehautian

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    If you make very little, there is community colleges and financial aid. My mom made very little (now disabled) and my dad didn't pay a dime of my college education (they were divorced and the lawyers sucked to not make him pay). I went to college and got a scholarship, took student loans (going to be over 15k once I am done paying them), and got a degree. At this point, it hasn't paid off any but all my training at my job has gotten me where I am today. The IBEW offers skills training as well. After you complete the program, you don't have to stay in the union I don't think, but you have the skills. There is other unions that offer skill training as well.
     

    CathyInBlue

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    I tried getting into the IBEW training course. You have to pass an interview just to be approved by the union to get their vaunted training you can learn in a book. They're not taking people they don't think are gonna be good little union drones.
     

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    I will celebrate when the BurgerBot 9000 is perfected

    You know what they'd do after the burgebot 9000 started replacing the last of their unskilled socialist laborers, is that they'd put a freeze on firing, and require companies to get governmemt approval before firing anyone.

    Leaving the Unions (who BTW are behind this crap in the first place) an easy IN, and when they negotiate the contracts, they will require the Employer to pay the 'Dues' to the Union for the robots that 'took' American jobs as they have tried, and succeeded, to do in other industries.
     

    terrehautian

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    I know friends who went through the program, it isn't just something you can learn in a book. I am a big union supporter even though I am not in one now (I wanted to stay in, the rest of the others didn't because we didn't have a good union). The IBEW does hands on training, you just don't learn from a book. You can also go to ISU or other colleges to learn construction trades, those trades are always needed.
     

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    Unions were a necessity at one time. I was union for a number of years. It reminded me vary much of our government. In that if you do not really want to work you can skate by. Work your but off make xy per hour. Show up drunk, lean on the wall next to toilet all day make same xy per hour. So where is the reason to work your butt off? In my experience Their only purpose was to take my money and make sure idiots that couldn't hack it still had a job. And when I NEEDED them they refused to help. Cause my Boss was my BA's drinking buddy. I won the lawsuit against employer. But I should not have had to sue. My union should have stepped in and done their job.

    What these people that are championing the doubling of wages are not realizing is that the cost of the meals at said restaurants will go up significantly. Likely so much so that quite a few will close due to lack of patronage. And jobs that are not lost to the machines will be lost to the closures. Idiots. We already cook at home more and eat out less thanks to the higher cost of eating out.
     
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    BogWalker

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    I don't get how raising wages creates jobs. Are employers lining up saying "I have too much money! Somebody take it, please!"
     

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    Let's do it. Seriously. Pass whatever they want. If they want $15 an hour, that's fine.

    People need to SEE the results first hand. Maybe when everyone is paying $8 for a Big Mac, they'll begin to get it.
     

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    when that chicken nugget value meal hits 12 bucks and a papa johns pizza hits your doorstep for 30, i dont think many people are going to be utilizing these services. much less the food at the grocery will become more expensive. the people that lose out on this deal are people like me, who make a decent, livable wage, but are not in the territory of well to do. when prices of everything go up, my pay is not moving anywhere, my spending power is effectively nerfed.
     
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