I made a mistake......

[Elcardo]

Started priming a bunch of 223 and after the first box of 100 I realized I'd grabbed the wrong primers and had installed cci no.500 pistol primers
Segregated those and finished priming with the correct primer but I'd rather not de-prime these if I don't have to
Anyone ever pulled this bone head move? And if so did you load em up and run them? These will be running through my ar15 .....kinda worry about potential slam fire or something .....

 

[Creedmoor]

I would just run them through a sizer again and reuse them. Just run the decapper down as far as it goes, so it's easier without resizing the neck.

 

[NHT3]

If there's any truth to internet lore you should be able to use them.. Were it me I would just load a couple and see what happens. But as always and especially where reloading is concerned YMMV

 

[Twangbanger]

Not sure what the post a couple above is saying, but just for 100% crystal clarity, whatever you do, don't decap them.

Your options are to 1) use them as primer-only noise-makers in their current state, or 2) if you have a bolt gun, load a couple all the way up to shoot and test, provided you're in the middle of the pressure range and aren't close to a min or max load. Change in primer could be dangerous if you're close to the extremes (ie, raises pressure or fails to envelop the charge).

If you see signs of high pressure (primers flowing or backing out), use the rest as New Years' noisemakers. We have all done this, it happens to the best and worst of us.

 

[Creedmoor]

If there's any truth to internet lore you should be able to use them.. Were it me I would just load a couple and see what happens. But as always and especially where reloading is concerned YMMV

Not sure what the post a couple above is saying, but just for 100% crystal clarity, whatever you do, don't decap them.

Your options are to 1) use them as primer-only noise-makers in their current state, or 2) if you have a bolt gun, load a couple all the way up to shoot and test, provided you're in the middle of the pressure range and aren't close to a min or max load. Change in primer could be dangerous if you're close to the extremes (ie, raises pressure or fails to envelop the charge).

If you see signs of high pressure (primers flowing or backing out), use the rest as New Years' noisemakers. We have all done this, it happens to the best and worst of us.

I've done it before, both ways. And I will add that my father bought two kinds of primers, large and small. I dont recall it ever being a problem with reloaders before the internet.

 

[edwea]

Not sure what the post a couple above is saying, but just for 100% crystal clarity, whatever you do, don't decap them.

Why not?

 

[Creedmoor]

Why not?

Exactly Why Not?

 

[Engle086]

Personally, I wouldn't do it unless it was my last resource to defend or put food on the table.

Here are a couple of threads from a different forum. There are more links in them to even more info on the subject.

Will pistol primers work in rifle brass reloading

I have only a limited supply of small rifle primers but a plentiful supply of small pistol primers. Would there be any real objection to using the pistol primers for reloading .223 Remington ammunition?

www.thehighroad.org

This one has an email from CCi stating their SPM and SRP are not the same or interchangeable.

Question on CCI primers

I've been told that CCI 400 small rifle and CCI 550 small pistol magnum primers are the exact same thing and can be interchanged What say the masses

www.thehighroad.org

IF you do decide to load and shoot. Obviously, start low and watch for pressure signs.

 

[Twangbanger]

Exactly Why Not?

Because if they're in there tight, they can explode right in the press.

 

[Engle086]

Because if they're in there tight, they can explode right in the press.

Very unlikely scenario when done properly.
Nice and slow with proper eye and hearing protection.
If they were tight enough to cause ignition when depriming, chances are they wouldn't have seated or been crushed when used the first time.

 

[Creedmoor]

Because if they're in there tight, they can explode right in the press.

Really, so with that.
How do you think the commercial de-millers punch out live primers with the Mil crimped primers on a daily basis?
I have a few bricks of 30 carbine punched primers that I bought from Talon Industries of West Virginia 30 years ago. When I bought them it was about 4 gallons of them in a 5 gallon bucket.
Jeff Bartlett of GI Brass, acquired a bunch or them awhile back and still has some for sale on his site. Punched 30 Carbine Primers.

Its quite safe to push out seated live primers,


Lake City small rifle primers, removed and recovered from loaded 1972 Lake City .30 Carbine ammo.
Two (2) types available. Nickel plated (standard small rifle) or brass (small rifle magnum).
The brass primer is same as used in 5.56mm NATO ammo and is hotter than the nickel primer.
Nickel primer made by Remington, and used in the .30 Carbine Ball M1 ammunition.
Perfect for .223 ammo. Can be used to load pistol ammunition, but some pistols may not have a
firing pin impact hard enough to reliably set them off (these are small RIFLE primers).
Call for additional info.

Welcome to Bartlett Reloaders - Miscellaneous Page

www.gibrass.com

 

[Engle086]

Really, so with that.
How do you think the commercial de-millers punch out live primers with the Mil crimped primers on a daily basis?
I have a few bricks of 30 carbine punched primers that I bought from Talon Industries of West Virginia 30 years ago. When I bought them it was about 4 gallons of them in a 5 gallon bucket.
Jeff Bartlett of GI Brass, acquired a bunch or them awhile back and still has some for sale on his site. Punched 30 Carbine Primers.

Its quite safe to push out seated live primers,


Lake City small rifle primers, removed and recovered from loaded 1972 Lake City .30 Carbine ammo.
Two (2) types available. Nickel plated (standard small rifle) or brass (small rifle magnum).
The brass primer is same as used in 5.56mm NATO ammo and is hotter than the nickel primer.
Nickel primer made by Remington, and used in the .30 Carbine Ball M1 ammunition.
Perfect for .223 ammo. Can be used to load pistol ammunition, but some pistols may not have a
firing pin impact hard enough to reliably set them off (these are small RIFLE primers).
Call for additional info.

Welcome to Bartlett Reloaders - Miscellaneous Page

www.gibrass.com

Interesting. I wonder what they use and how, to remove the crimp? Seems it would have to be removed to get a useable primer?

 

[Creedmoor]

Interesting. I wonder what they use and how, to remove the crimp? Seems it would have to be removed to get a useable primer?

Nope, the decapper just pushes it out like a normal fired primer.

 

[Titanium700]

Just decap em.
It’s safe.
I’ve done hundreds.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Because if they're in there tight, they can explode right in the press.

First off, it’s extremely unlikely.

Second off, with eye and ear pro there is no consequence if it does pop.

It really is no big deal.

 

[Twangbanger]

Really, so with that.
How do you think the commercial de-millers punch out live primers with the Mil crimped primers on a daily basis?
I have a few bricks of 30 carbine punched primers that I bought from Talon Industries of West Virginia 30 years ago. When I bought them it was about 4 gallons of them in a 5 gallon bucket.
Jeff Bartlett of GI Brass, acquired a bunch or them awhile back and still has some for sale on his site. Punched 30 Carbine Primers.

Its quite safe to push out seated live primers,


Lake City small rifle primers, removed and recovered from loaded 1972 Lake City .30 Carbine ammo.
Two (2) types available. Nickel plated (standard small rifle) or brass (small rifle magnum).
The brass primer is same as used in 5.56mm NATO ammo and is hotter than the nickel primer.
Nickel primer made by Remington, and used in the .30 Carbine Ball M1 ammunition.
Perfect for .223 ammo. Can be used to load pistol ammunition, but some pistols may not have a
firing pin impact hard enough to reliably set them off (these are small RIFLE primers).
Call for additional info.

Welcome to Bartlett Reloaders - Miscellaneous Page

www.gibrass.com

I'm not a commercial de-miller, so I don't know what they use (or how many they set off in the process of obtaining them), but my dies have a hardened, small-diameter pin. I don't want a primer going off in _my_ press, because I don't do it in my garage or business, I do it in my house. Certainly, as in the case of your dad lumping all primers together as "large" or "small," something negative won't happen every time, or even frequently. It is probably what you would call a "corner case." When I reload in my house, where I and my family live, I'm all about eliminating "corner cases." Pushing hardened pins into primers backwards under press force is simply not something I wish to engage in.

It is a free country, and everyone is free to "do you."

 

[red_zr24x4]

I've deprimed a few, slow and easy, shouldn't have any problems.
I bought a bunch of the 30 carbine primers years ago at knob creek, about 95% work like they should

 

[55fairlane]

Go slow as you deprive you will be fine, but why waste them.....loaded 'em & choot 'em

 

[edwea]

I had one go off while decapping once. It really was no big deal. At that point, there is no powder or bullet in the equation. It was just a cap going off. Not even really that loud.

 

[Creedmoor]

I'm not a commercial de-miller, so I don't know what they use (or how many they set off in the process of obtaining them), but my dies have a hardened, small-diameter pin. I don't want a primer going off in _my_ press, because I don't do it in my garage or business, I do it in my house. Certainly, as in the case of your dad lumping all primers together as "large" or "small," something negative won't happen every time, or even frequently. It is probably what you would call a "corner case." When I reload in my house, where I and my family live, I'm all about eliminating "corner cases." Pushing hardened pins into primers backwards under press force is simply not something I wish to engage in.

It is a free country, and everyone is free to "do you."

I have been in two de-millers businesses in my life, I also reload in my home or shop. Its quite safe my friend, you do you. But don't say its not safe because its just not true. The dies that all of those machines I've watched run were no different that whats available to us.

Do you feel safe seating primers with a raised anvil that when seating those primers get "armed" when they get seated?


One is much more likely to have a primer explosion when seating a primer than punching out a primer.

Ever reloaded using a Lee Classic Hand Loader? LOL