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IN SB 0130 Firearms Freedom Act. Let's get this passed!
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It doesn't.
It is in he courts being fought. Currently waiting to get on the schedule for the 9th circuit court of appeals.
LOL. I wish I had the legal mind of John Roberts.
Though he is correct in that Article I, Section 8 provides Congress the power to "lay and collect taxes, duties, imports, and excises", regardless of how despicable the rationale by those pushing the tax for their own nefarious purposes.
Write in someone else at the ballot?
Though seriously, use their email: http://www.in.gov/legislative/contact/index.html
Here is my letter Ramrod, plagiarize as much as you wish :
I am writing to urge you to support SB0130, the Indiana Firearms Freedom Act.
It is clear that leaders in our Federal Government are intent on violating our liberty to self defense. We need to make clear that our State and our people will not give up those liberties under any circumstances.
Since it is abundantly clear that gun control doesn't work, the only other possible purpose is to further enable tyranny.
With a $16T+ debt, growing at $1.5T+ per year, and funded primarily by abuse of our monetary system rather than the open market, it is an unfortunate reality that Hoosiers need to think clearly and proactively about maintaining our liberty now and in the future.
I am writing to urge you to support SB0130, the Indiana Firearms Freedom Act.
It is clear that leaders in our Federal Government are intent on violating our liberty to self defense. We need to make clear that our State and our people will not give up those liberties under any circumstances.
Since it is abundantly clear that gun control doesn't work, the only other possible purpose is to further enable tyranny.
With a $16T+ debt, growing at $1.5T+ per year, and funded primarily by abuse of our monetary system rather than the open market, it is an unfortunate reality that Hoosiers need to think clearly and proactively about maintaining our liberty now and in the future.
so techincally speaking, if this gets passed, does that mean private citizens and companies in indiana can start producing machine guns? thats how i read it anyway, "a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Indiana…and remains within the borders of Indiana; is not subject to federal law or federal regulation,..."
or in my mind, Hughes amendment undone
or in my mind, Hughes amendment undone
It depends on how the actual Indiana law is written. I do believe Montana excludes machine guns.
Some relevant links. There is a Montana man moving the test case through the courts.
A Gun Activist Takes Aim at U.S. Regulatory Power - WSJ.com
Firearms Freedom Act
A Gun Activist Takes Aim at U.S. Regulatory Power - WSJ.com
Firearms Freedom Act
Arguments of being a test case and federal law aside.
Does this mean one could manufacture an SBR on any AR lower since the manufacturing of the SBR would be taking place in Indiana? Or, would they need to build it on an Indiana manufactured lower (i.e. Delaware Machinery)? From my understanding, as per ATF definition, the manufacture of an SBR is creating a new firearm. So I would think the fact that the lower was not forged and machined inside state lines would not matter. The only issue I would see is "(B) without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state;". Under this bill, at what point is the rifle considered an SBR? Would it be when you attach the 10.5" upper? If so, would that upper be considered a significant part imported from another state? The lower is the firearm, I would think anything else attached to it is just an accessory.
Also, I saw no listing of prohibited weapons in the bill, other than those that shoot two or more rounds per single pull of the trigger.
Does this mean one could manufacture an SBR on any AR lower since the manufacturing of the SBR would be taking place in Indiana? Or, would they need to build it on an Indiana manufactured lower (i.e. Delaware Machinery)? From my understanding, as per ATF definition, the manufacture of an SBR is creating a new firearm. So I would think the fact that the lower was not forged and machined inside state lines would not matter. The only issue I would see is "(B) without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state;". Under this bill, at what point is the rifle considered an SBR? Would it be when you attach the 10.5" upper? If so, would that upper be considered a significant part imported from another state? The lower is the firearm, I would think anything else attached to it is just an accessory.
Also, I saw no listing of prohibited weapons in the bill, other than those that shoot two or more rounds per single pull of the trigger.
Prometheus
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One would think, however since the lower moved across state lines at *one time* the feds try and claim it will always be under their purview.
I say that because we saw them basically attempting that to try and regulate yard sales.
If it came down to it, I could see the feds claiming that because the raw metal was sourced from <insert location>, that even though the lower itself was made in Indiana, the metal was moved across state lines.
This won't be an easy fight... but it's a fight we must win.
