info on loading 45acp

[4006]

Hi
I will be starting to load 45acp i will be using titegroup with 230 rnd fed primer
is this powder a clean or a dirty powder i will be loading 4.4 grs an working my way up
hodgdon load data start at 4.0 to max 4.8
Thanks Joe R

 

[Mgderf]

Sorry I can't help. I've only recently started reloading myself and I haven't used any Titegroup yet.
Welcome to Ingo anyway.

 

[Leadeye]

Titegroup is a good powder for 45 ACP, cleaner than say Unique.

 

[Water63]

That's what I have been running in my 45 ACP good powder.

 

[ScouT6a]

Been reloading close to twenty-five years. In general, I don't recommend powders, such as Titegroup with a very narrow range between minimum and maximum charges, for new reloaders. Also don't like the fact that some of these powders could easily result in a double charge.

 

[billybob44]

Good start...

Yeah, you are on the right track..You'll probably find that the TiteGroup load of around 4.6-4.7gr. will give the 230RN the best charge.

Try to seat these to an OAL of 1.260"-1.270" for the best operation of your Auto..Bill.

 

[OutdoorDad]

This...

Hodgdon - The Gun Powder People

Is the absolute best resource you will ever find online

 

[Ngdonut]

What kind of bullet have you chosen?

 

[OHOIAN]

Keep in mind that no mater what powder you use a heavier charge will most always burn cleaner than a light charge.

Added
When using cast bullets a lot of the smoke is from the wax bullet lube and not the powder.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

It's relatively clean, I load 4.6 gr when I used Titegroup. I prefer Winchester Super Target, though, and have recently started using Pistol CFE and am finding I like it quite well.

 

[Leo]

Titegroup works fine. The Hodgdon load data for that combination is reliable. The safety and quality is up to you. Pay attention. Any time you save with sloppy reloading will be used up by what ever time it takes to clear a stuck bullet, take apart bad rounds our maybe even picking up pieces of broken gun and fingers if you make a kaboom.

 

[Fullmag]

Loading cast or plated bullets?

 

[4006]

I will be using berry plated bullets

 

[Ngdonut]

I will be using berry plated bullets

Nice! I use a very similar bullet, Xtreme plated 230 gr. Careful on overcrimping. I made that mistake early on and would see inconsistent fliers as a result.

Other than that, I think you will be happy with copper plated rounds

 

[Thegeek]

I use CCI small primers, in blazer brass (from retail rounds), and Indiana Bullet Co cast bullets. 4.2gr is what I load. Way too smokey, but that's the bullet, not the powder. In contrast, again using 4.2gr in my FMJ 9mm loads and I'm pleased with the results. So no negative to the IBC guys, but I'm done with cast bullets.

I am also pretty new to reloading and Titegroup is very narrow range. For me, it forced me to be cautious. But if you're not like me, it could be a bad thing.

 

[noylj]

Never noticed dirty or clean, except for PB powder where my fired cases were as clean as virgin brass.
TiteGroup is among my least favorite powders. Narrow charge range, VERY hot burning, doesn't always play nice with cast or coated bullets, and can suffer pressure spikes. Not a powder I would suggest to start with, but it will go bang.
Better powders are AA2 and 231/HP38, since you appear to be a "dirty" worrier. Other great and well-behaved powders for .45 Auto are Bullseye, Solo 1000, and Red Dot.
Unique is great for near-max loadings and will also handle low target pressures fine. Been very disappointed with Universal.

 

[Robert Richardson]

It's relatively clean, I load 4.6 gr when I used Titegroup. I prefer Winchester Super Target, though, and have recently started using Pistol CFE and am finding I like it quite well.

I have to agree on the CFE Pistol powder. Good stuff. It runs thru a powder measure very well and shoots clean on mid to upper range loads.

 

[craigkim]

I really like Titegroup. It was my first powder and I have loaded it in both 9 and 45 and I would say it is pretty good for both, but that depends on your purpose I guess. For me, it was something that meters well and more importantly,…. was available. Beyond that, I think it is really very good for shooting paper targets and it is accurate. It isn’t the powder to use to reproduce factory ammunition characteristics. It does meter really well for me too. I didn’t dare push anything very fast with TG, given how fast burning it is. I like the recoil characteristics of Titegroup better than some of the slower burning powders that push bullets faster though. Faster burning powders sortof become more logical with lighter projectiles, so consider that too.
These other gentleman on here know more than I do,… a few of them helped me learn early this year, so take that into account.
My guess is that, with your initial experience, you will think it is a “dirty” powder because you have to be more careful and start with lower charges on a fast burning powder like this. At those lower charges you will get more smoke, powder residue, and your cases will look like they have been held over a candle. BUT, as you dial in your charges, this should be remedied by increasing pressures and greater extent of combustion. The sweet spot, for me, with 230 RN FMJ was 4.65 gr with an oal of 1.250. I believe with the plated, it will require slightly more powder to produce the results you want, but you gotta start low for safety.
Unique didn’t meter nearly as well as Titegroup in my Dillon. I don’t like it, my velocities were all over the place with it. On the other hand,… I think CFE pistol is “better” in every way except that I like shooting the fast powders better. My current favorite to shoot is VV310. It’s faster yet than Titegroup, but really fun to shoot. You get that nice snappy “pop” of a recoil that allows the handgun to settle back in pretty quickly. I shoot better, and I feel like my Wilson is more accurate, with faster powders. Have fun with Titegroup though, just recognize it’s strengths and weaknesses.