Karzai: Afghanistan Will Back Pakistan Against U.S.

[mrjarrell]

So, if the US keeps up its policy of not so covert war against Pakistan, or ratchets things up, American soldiers could well have another enemy at their backs. An enemy that the US has armed and trained. It's past time for the government to pack up their toys and come home. We're certainly not making friends or influencing people.

Afghanistan to back Pakistan if wars with U.S.: Karzai - Yahoo! News

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Takeaway: Karzai is a snake in the grass lacking any semblence of loyalty or integrity who will say and do anything in front of a crowd to appease and please. Not so much unlike the current occupant of the Oval Office.

 

[PistolBob]

Bring our troops home now. There is no reason to stay.

 

[teddy12b]

WTH??? You mean to tell me that our foreign policy isn't making us friends even in countries we've occupied for 10 years? That can't be right. We should send more bombs we can't afford and bomb this guy until he decides to like us.

 

[NYFelon]

Should have flattened the entire place from the word go.

 

[mrjarrell]

Should have flattened the entire place from the word go.

Ummm...we pretty much did. That probably has something to do with Karzai's backing of his neighbour.

 

[NYFelon]

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree that we flattened the place. I' also going to say that Karzai realizes that the US will one day not be there. Pakistan will however always be a regional neighbor. It;s not unreasonable to think that as a statesman, Karzai sees the benefit in positive relations with his regional states.

 

[adam]

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree that we flattened the place. I' also going to say that Karzai realizes that the US will one day not be there. Pakistan will however always be a regional neighbor. It;s not unreasonable to think that as a statesman, Karzai sees the benefit in positive relations with his regional states.

+1, it looks good to his people.

 

[Prometheus]

The US has a decades old policy of abandoning allies and turning on those we once propped up.

Karzai would be a fool to think it won't end the same way this time around. I can't blame him for wanting to be neighborly with a country that will still be an influence on them for centuries to come.

In any event, the US occupation of Afganistan has been a massive and colossal failure. The failure to spread 'democracy' all the way to the massive increases in heroin production... it's long past time to leave.

 

[rambone]

Karzai hates us because we are free.

 

[hondatech2k2]

Well look at it this way... all we have to do is look at India and say "India, we unleash you!". India has been sour towards Pakistan for decades... they would revel at the chance to smash the source of their terrorism problems! On a side note...you mean to tell me our foreign policy isn't working??? LIES!!!! Conform, and drop more bombs!

 

[RockofStrength]

Scoring political points, nothing more. A nation as small and weak as his knows to score points with the locals, but in the event that we actually went to war with Pakistan he'd be tripping over himself to pledge his nation to our cause

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

Well look at it this way... all we have to do is look at India and say "India, we unleash you!". India has been sour towards Pakistan for decades... they would revel at the chance to smash the source of their terrorism problems! On a side note...you mean to tell me our foreign policy isn't working??? LIES!!!! Conform, and drop more bombs!

And then China jumps in, and the worlds two most populated countries are at war (not too mention India is pincered). Not sure where Russian would stand, but i imagine the outcome wouldnt be too good for us or our allies.

 

[88GT]

Takeaway: Karzai is a snake in the grass lacking any semblence of loyalty or integrity who will say and do anything in front of a crowd to appease and please. Not so much unlike the current occupant of the Oval Office.

No honor among thieves.

I know a few here would like to think this speaks volume about America's foreign policy, but let's be honest: nothing is ever as cut and dried as it seems or as we would like it to be. I'd bet money Karzai's decision is not a philosophical one, but a practical one. And make no mistake, the two are no where near the same thing.

 

[teddy12b]

No honor among thieves.

I know a few here would like to think this speaks volume about America's foreign policy, but let's be honest: nothing is ever as cut and dried as it seems or as we would like it to be. I'd bet money Karzai's decision is not a philosophical one, but a practical one. And make no mistake, the two are no where near the same thing.

Nothing could be more cut and dry that our foreign policy has failed again. I know it's hard to imagine that foreigns in your country killing your people would eventually get on your nerves, but hey it just those crazy people in the middle east again right. They should be happy that we've had control of their country longer than we did Germany after WWII. He just must not be a team player.

 

[halfmileharry]

The US has a decades old policy of abandoning allies and turning on those we once propped up.

Karzai would be a fool to think it won't end the same way this time around. I can't blame him for wanting to be neighborly with a country that will still be an influence on them for centuries to come.

In any event, the US occupation of Afganistan has been a massive and colossal failure. The failure to spread 'democracy' all the way to the massive increases in heroin production... it's long past time to leave.

Exactly!!
I will add that we have influenced the area in a good way.
Sure, the power mongers that be in their country won't change their way of doing business or even change their thinking but...a lot of people have seen a bit of freedom since our occupation. It's a seed planted and it will grow.
We are dealing with a culture of predators and prey but once you've had that taste of freedom it's hard to live without.

 

[Pocketman]

It's difficult to create democracy in a culture with centuries of tribal mentality.

 

[RoyalTenenbaum]

Cut off the money faucet.

 

[halfmileharry]

It's difficult to create democracy in a culture with centuries of tribal mentality.

They've got a better chance at democracy than we do. (Sarcasm)

 

[teddy12b]

They've got a better chance at democracy than we do. (Sarcasm)

Not really, look at it from their point of view. We say we're this great democracy, but if you were on the outside looking in all you'd see is a government that continues to get elected to start wars, and bail out the people who just screwed the middle class. Why would you want that if you were a foreign country. If we got back to minding our own business and becoming prosperous again, then we'd be something that other countries would want to copy. Until then, we have the status quo.