Larry Vickers bans Appendix Carry in his pistol classes

[NoAdmiration]

I frequently AIWB a PM9. I try to avoid re-holstering were possible. I put the gun in the holster, and then put the holster on the belt. When training at the range, I am, to quote a guy on the internet, "reluctant to re-holster." I make conscious and deliberate re-holstering a part of the training cycle. I have considered buying the Glock 43 but I am on the fence about AIWB with a Glock. The PM9 has a long trigger pull which gives me small margin of error while re-holstering. I have never actually had to use that margin of error so I'm not sure if I am worried over nothing.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Fantastic response from Paul Howe,

Thoughts on AIWB | Hammerhead Combat Systems

I have seen the appendix carry method used for 40 years in my weapons history. The only accident noted was a detective/officer in the 70’s who shoved a Smith & Wesson model 59 series 9mm into his pants appendix without a holster.

Only one guy has shot himself in the junk in front of Paul? Talk about a charmed life. We can do appendix junk shooting all day.

I can totally see Mr. Vickers point. No time to deal with such liability issues. Makes good business sense.

In faaaacccctttt, just this weekend someone was being all tactical and stuff and shot himself in the Little Captain Tactical: The Captain's Journal » Man Shoots Himself In The Groin With Pistol

 

[Jackson]

Only one guy has shot himself in the junk in front of Paul? Talk about a charmed life. We can do appendix junk shooting all day.

I can totally see Mr. Vickers point. No time to deal with such liability issues. Makes good business sense.

In faaaacccctttt, just this weekend someone was being all tactical and stuff and shot himself in the Little Captain Tactical: The Captain's Journal » Man Shoots Himself In The Groin With Pistol

Maybe I didn't read closely enough or follow some other link (I am reading from a phone), but where does it say he was using an appendix holster? I read the he "picked up the gun to put it away" somewhere, but the link didn't mention a holster. So are random junk shootings now cause to avoid appendix holsters even if a holster wasn't involved in the junk shooting act?

 

[rhino]

Maybe I didn't read closely enough or follow some other link (I am reading from a phone), but where does it say he was using an appendix holster? I read the he "picked up the gun to put it away" somewhere, but the link didn't mention a holster. So are random junk shootings now cause to avoid appendix holsters even if a holster wasn't involved in the junk shooting act?

Hush, you! Don't let facts (or the lack of them) get in the way of the narrative!

 

[lovemachine]

Just an update. My junk is still intact after carrying AIWB today. But the day is still early.

 

[JettaKnight]

Maybe I didn't read closely enough or follow some other link (I am reading from a phone), but where does it say he was using an appendix holster? I read the he "picked up the gun to put it away" somewhere, but the link didn't mention a holster. So are random junk shootings now cause to avoid appendix holsters even if a holster wasn't involved in the junk shooting act?

I'm trying to figure out what other method affords you the opportunity to shoot yourself in the junk?

 

[chezuki]

Just an update. My junk is still intact after carrying AIWB today. But the day is still early.

Several of us created 9mm Prince Alberts on Saturday. Its the hottest new trend.

 

[chezuki]

Double tap

 

[JettaKnight]

I carry appendix but I can see the safety issues. I must say that appendix carry is more comfortable and accessible to me but if you don't train enough it could be bad for you if you under stress draw and aren't aware of your finger placement.

I HAVE to try this. I can't even imagine how this could be comfortable while sitting. Perhaps I drink too much beer...

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I'm trying to figure out what other method affords you the opportunity to shoot yourself in the junk?

Pocket carry, depending.

 

[cedartop]

I'm trying to figure out what other method affords you the opportunity to shoot yourself in the junk?

Going solely by the article, it doesn't say anything about reholstering. It says he picked up the weapon to put it away, placed his finger on the trigger while pointing the gun in an unsafe direction and shot himself in the groin. (I paraphrased a little)

 

[Jackson]

I'm trying to figure out what other method affords you the opportunity to shoot yourself in the junk?

I don't know. The link didn't provide enough information to have any idea what actually happened. How was he gripping the gun? Does he even own a holster? Did he pick it up by the slide and stick his pinky in the trigger guard with the muzzle toward his junk? Did he actually get in to a fight with his wife who shot him in the junk for cheating with the neighbor, then just TOLD the police it was an accident?

I can make up any number of possible scenarios. Wait until you hear my magic bullet quadrouple ricochet theory. The fact remains, the article mentioned nothing about a holster, let alone appendix carry.

I don't even care about appendix carry. Shoot your junk, dont shoot your junk... Its your junk. Just don't shoot my junk and we're cool.

 

[lovemachine]

If someone shoots my junk, I'm going to be pissed.

 

[rhino]

If someone shoots my junk, I'm going to be pissed.

My marksmanship isn't that good.

 

[iChokePeople]

My marksmanship isn't that good.

Your marksmanship is very good, but we are indeed talking RIDICULOUS levels here.

 

[rhino]

Your marksmanship is very good, but we are indeed talking RIDICULOUS levels here.

Correct.

 

[chezuki]

My marksmanship isn't that good.

 

[iChokePeople]

Should be waving her pinky, not her index finger.

 

[rhino]

I'm almost​ ashamed of what I instigated here.

 

[iChokePeople]

You're just afraid he's going to steal your soul.