Little sister wants to carry, has 2 problems

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Seems to me that someone tried this out in court, and won. The 4473 does say "actual purchaser" but it doesn't define how long you have to own said firearm before you sell it.
If I remember correctly, they determined that legally, a person could stand at a gun shop counter and purchase a gun and then literally turn around and sell it to his buddy behind him, as a private transaction.
I don't have to worry about it. All of my siblings are old enough to buy their own guns.

Yeah, we're splitting hairs to some extent but that's exactly what a zealous DA would do if s/he thought they could prove intent. Realistically, if someone did buy a gun knowing they were going to turn around and sell it later, someone would have to blab, in all likelihood, before someone would get caught.

 

[Bigtanker]

Yeah, we're splitting hairs to some extent but that's exactly what a zealous DA would do if s/he thought they could prove intent. Realistically, if someone did buy a gun knowing they were going to turn around and sell it later, someone would have to blab, in all likelihood, before someone would get caught.

Been in our classifieds lately?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Been in our classifieds lately?

Me? No. Am I missing something?

 

[Bigtanker]

Me? No. Am I missing something?

People buying a gun just to sell it aka a Flipper.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

People buying a gun just to sell it aka a Flipper.

Hmmm...I don't spend much time there, just perusing.

 

[Bigtanker]

Hmmm...I don't spend much time there, just perusing.

I guess I was a little off topic. No problem.

 

[hopper68]

"A *straw* purchaser is a person with a clean background who purchases firearms specifically on behalf of a person prohibited from purchasing a firearm because he or she is a convicted felon, domestic violence misdemeanants, juvenile, mentally ill individual or other federally or state-defined prohibited person."

Nuff said. I would not risk my freedom, people have been prosecuted for less. And even if you win

 

[IndyDave1776]

People buying a gun just to sell it aka a Flipper.

This guy has been selling guns again!?

 

[Bill of Rights]

This guy has been selling guns again!?

Yeah. But only from Finland.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Yeah. But only from Finland.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I know there is a lot a gray area in the "straw purchase" debate. IMO, I see it as purchasing a firearm for someone that you know, or have good reason to believe, that they can't legally do so.
If you know your sister to be a "proper" person, there is nothing stopping you from purchasing the handgun as the actual buyer and then selling it to her as a private transaction.

See below, your opinion is at odds with the US Supreme Court.

Seems to me that someone tried this out in court, and won. The 4473 does say "actual purchaser" but it doesn't define how long you have to own said firearm before you sell it.
If I remember correctly, they determined that legally, a person could stand at a gun shop counter and purchase a gun and then literally turn around and sell it to his buddy behind him, as a private transaction.
I don't have to worry about it. All of my siblings are old enough to buy their own guns.

I'd love to see that decision. You might want to read about the recent Abramski case. SCOTUS upheld the conviction of a retired police officer who bought a pistol for his uncle who was lawfully allowed to buy one himself. They actually did the transaction at an FFL and did the 4473.
Supreme Court | Abramski | Gun Control Act | Straw Purchase

 

[Bigtanker]

See below, your opinion is at odds with the US Supreme Court.



I'd love to see that decision. You might want to read about the recent Abramski case. SCOTUS upheld the conviction of a retired police officer who bought a pistol for his uncle who was lawfully allowed to buy one himself. They actually did the transaction at an FFL and did the 4473.
Supreme Court | Abramski | Gun Control Act | Straw Purchase

I had forgot about that case. Good point.

 

[SSGSAD]

Yeah, we're splitting hairs to some extent but that's exactly what a zealous DA would do if s/he thought they could prove intent. Realistically, if someone did buy a gun knowing they were going to turn around and sell it later, someone would have to blab, in all likelihood, before someone would get caught.

IIRC, right here on INGO, someone bought a gun, at the 1500, and before he left the building, he sold the gun.....

He was arrested ....

anyway, I can't remember all the details, but he hadn't owned the gun, "long enough" to sell it as a "private" sale .....

 

[Dead Duck]

OP-
After reading through all the responses in this thread, there's obviously only one question on everyones mind -

Is your little sister cute?

 

[Bigtanker]

OP-
After reading through all the responses in this thread, there's obviously only one question on everyones mind -

Is your little sister cute?

 

[Cameramonkey]

oblig...

 

[indiucky]

This guy has been selling guns again!?

Yes....And when he got caught he released this statement.....

[video=youtube;v8b_I5IjNE4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8b_I5IjNE4[/video]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

IIRC, right here on INGO, someone bought a gun, at the 1500, and before he left the building, he sold the gun.....

He was arrested ....

anyway, I can't remember all the details, but he hadn't owned the gun, "long enough" to sell it as a "private" sale .....

I guess I missed that one...

 

[Timjoebillybob]

IIRC, right here on INGO, someone bought a gun, at the 1500, and before he left the building, he sold the gun.....

He was arrested ....

anyway, I can't remember all the details, but he hadn't owned the gun, "long enough" to sell it as a "private" sale .....

I guess I missed that one...

I have also, I've heard stories about it and read it in a story but never 1st or even 2nd hand. Always a friend of a friend whose cousin's, uncle's, neighbors aunt...

 

[Expat]

Exactly. If the 18 year old cannot complete the purchase on her own, it seems to me to be the very definition of a straw purchase if somebody else does it in her stead with the intent of immediately selling it to her.

But the law that has been quoted here on several prior occasions, says that I can not sell a gun in a private transaction to someone who can not buy a gun from a licensed dealer. So how can I sell a pistol to someone under age 21, but over 18?