New AR Tier Chart

[Pepi]

I'm a loser

 

[xwing]

Probably somewhat accurate regarding price, but IMO no real correlation to usability / performance.

 

[OneBadV8]

Keep em clean and oiled and most will run just fine.



This thread is entertaining at least though

 

[Expat]

I wish I could find an LMT...
I am saving up for a H&K MR762a1.

 

[Nugget]

I'm far from an expert, but for the most part it seems like milspec ARs follow the 80/20 rule. The first 20% of the cost gets you 80% of max quality and functionality. That next 80% of cost gets you so little extra value that I have a hard time buying one $2k AR when I can have 4 PSA/S&W/Bushmaster/Rugers instead. I don't know though, maybe I'm just in denial.

 

[Dean C.]

I'm far from an expert, but for the most part it seems like milspec ARs follow the 80/20 rule. The first 20% of the cost gets you 80% of max quality and functionality. That next 80% of cost gets you so little extra value that I have a hard time buying one $2k AR when I can have 4 PSA/S&W/Bushmaster/Rugers instead. I don't know though, maybe I'm just in denial.

I would get 2 $1000 guns before I got 4 $500 guns, you will get significantly better metallurgy and barrel performance IMHO. I say this running a sub MOA LWRC

 

[Nugget]

I would get 2 $1000 guns before I got 4 $500 guns, you will get significantly better metallurgy and barrel performance IMHO.

I'm confident I don't have enough money to spend on ammo to put enough rounds through any of my guns in my lifetime that those things will ever matter, but point taken.

 

[ancjr]

Boogeyman be more dead if you shoot him with HK vs Anderson.

 

[Expat]

Boogeyman be more dead if you shoot him with HK vs Anderson.

There is the voice of reason right there.

 

[ancjr]

There is the voice of reason right there.

Buy me HK so I can confirm hypothesis.

 

[DadSmith]

Boogeyman be more dead if you shoot him with HK vs Anderson.

I bet more will be shot with the poors uppers/rifles than the top tier uppers/rifles. Citizen owned.

I don't see how LaRue, and LWRCI aren't higher.
How did doublestar get out of poverty?
Are they going by price alone?
Like I stated before until each rifle from each company is ran through say a 10,000rd test no cleaning just lubrication and see how well each does we will never know which are the very best, or the very worst.
That will be the judge of which rifle is best, and which is worst.
Until then it's speculation.
Just seen a DD fail.

 

[Brandon]

After that? Doing doughnuts on forklifts will be commonplace.

Doing donuts on forklifts has been common place for atleast as long as I have been around them. Same as flipping coins, burnouts, and running stuff over. Even the occasional hydraulic line blowout.

Can't believe you think it isnt already!

 

[ancjr]

I bet more will be shot with the poors uppers/rifles than the top tier uppers/rifles. Citizen owned.

I don't see how LaRue, and LWRCI aren't higher.
How did doublestar get out of poverty?
Are they going by price alone?
Like I stated before until each rifle from each company is ran through say a 10,000rd test no cleaning just lubrication and see how well each does we will never know which are the very best, or the very worst.
That will be the judge of which rifle is best, and which is worst.
Until then it's speculation.
Just seen a DD fail.

...and you'd have to do it with 1000's of samples of each individual rifle.

 

[jwamplerusa]

I say this running a sub MOA LWRC

Uh-huh

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

In my experience, there is a lot of brand loyalty and propaganda that obfuscate the reality that a low end AR is more in common with a high end AR than we are lead to believe. The things that make a difference here IMO are the trigger, barrel, sights/optic, is the gas/buffer system tuned, and most importantly your personal capabilities with a rifle. A properly tuned rifle from any tier is likely going to be good enough to trust your life with.

 

[Ingomike]

The chart makes little allowance for the “Chevrolet” company that produces a “Corvette”…

 

[Dean C.]

Uh-huh
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You do realize you posted a .89 MOA group right??

 

[Noble Sniper]

These charts in all reality are a joke. Some of them yeah I’ll give kudos to but a price tag DOESNT mean accuracy and reliability. I’ve been blessed to be able to purchase a few higher priced firearms. But if things went sideways right now the rifle I would grab would be my Gen 1 Galil Ace!!! I have faith in its reliability and repeatable accuracy. In a life or death self defense situation you won’t be going thru the motions to shoot a super tight group you will need to shoot minute of man. For me that Galil will do just that and with authority. Is the Galil my only rifle heck no but it’s the one that works for me. Reliable!!! So whether you have a $400 AR or a $4000 AR at the end of the day would you bet your life on it? I had an expensive rifle and I questioned its reliability. Not from personal experience but the experiences of others. Just my .02 worth and not worth anymore than this laughable list.

 

[Expat]

I bet more will be shot with the poors uppers/rifles than the top tier uppers/rifles. Citizen owned.

I don't see how LaRue, and LWRCI aren't higher.
How did doublestar get out of poverty?
Are they going by price alone?
Like I stated before until each rifle from each company is ran through say a 10,000rd test no cleaning just lubrication and see how well each does we will never know which are the very best, or the very worst.
That will be the judge of which rifle is best, and which is worst.
Until then it's speculation.
Just seen a DD fail.

I agree on Larue, I would have thought they would be higher on the list. But they don’t market like other companies, so they don’t get as much buzz.

i know there are a lot of guys at the H&K forum that put more ammo through their guns than I can afford.

 

[Cavman]

I always think of a conversation I had with a guy years ago. At the time I had gotten a harley shorter 1200. I was new to riding and this bike was great for me. I worked with a guy who had some sport crotch rocket. He constantly talked crap about how much faster it was blah blah. One day me and couple guys including crotch rocket guy all went ridi g to Nashville, bloomingto etc. He couldn't keep up. We kept havi g to eventually wait for him alot. Next day he was talking crap agai. About how fast his bike was. All I could tell him was yea. Your bike is fast, but you arent... this is same for the tier system of rifles.. some might be better than others.. but the shooter may not be so it won't matter