My head hurts.....
For those who have stopped paying attention for, Idunno, maybe lack of interest, I'll unpack that.
Kut implied early in the thread that this thread is a sham, because conservative groups were actually paying to get these liberal groups to disrupt the election. I asked for links. Thread goes on, I eventually ask for links again. Kut posted a link to an article based on the original reporting from Ryan Grim from HuffPo. The article Kut linked claimed Veritas tried to pay liberal groups to riot. As stated it implies they're fishing for anyone who they can get on tape to say they'll do it. Kut believes them. I guess because he thinks they are credible.
So, I listened to the audio Kut's link claimed was proof. What I heard on the audio sounded like two sides both trying to get the other to admit to something illegal. I called it sting/counter-sting. Neither were fishing.
So then Veritas came out with their most recent sting video, which Kut didn't watch because he's declared that they are not credible, based on the side he wants to believe. Then Veritas released another video addressing the accusations of Grim. In the video, O'Keefe says Grim, who broke the story on HuffPo, endorsed his sting video. Kut wouldn't watch that video.
So then, I searched for what O'Keefe referenced to see what he was talking about. On the Veritas website is a short article summarizing a radio interview by Sean Hanity, of both Ryan Grim and O'Keefe together. Now, I would not trust Sean Hanity as a source. He's clearly biased. And given that O'Keefe's credibility is in question, I'm not going to rely on his testimony. But the source I'm relying on is Ryan Grim, the author of the piece that started the whole thing.
Grim did indeed endorse O'Keefe's reporting. Grim, among other things also admitted that at most his piece exposed the thing that I said, that both sides were trying to get the other side to admit to something illegal. In other words, it wasn't a fishing sort of hit-piece exposition that Kut's article implied.
So, Idunno. Maybe Kut can find a link from his credible sources that say Sean Hanity actually interviewed someone posing as Grim, just to get Veritas off the hook.
But Kut still says none of it is credible. Even the guy who broke the story, which the link he provided is based on, is apparently not credible.